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To: epicure who wrote (246118)	3/2/2014 1:16:31 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542147

I'm surprised you don't with the second. I am not saying that parents are "bad"- they just aren't there. It's possible to have some sense of how teaching has changed, how course materials have changed, and certainly how the economy has changed since the early 70s. Much, much harder to say how parenting has changed, at least how it effects kids performances in schools. I know there's lots of stuff out there about no one home and the like but I haven't seen any really good studies that show how parenting is different between that time period and now and how that correlates to differing student performances. Perhaps it's out there; it's not something I read in systematically. I found lots of griping among teachers and and administrators in my tenure on the board of ed but it all sounded like the constant griping of such. Not anything new. As for the changing scores at the macro level, last time I checked most of that was due to a much wider sampling base.

To: epicure who wrote (246118)	3/2/2014 2:13:50 PM
From: Bread Upon The Water	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 542147

I think in those schools often there are almost no functional parents, educationally speaking- and that would be horrible. I don't know how you deal with that kind of ignorance, and I'm glad that's not my job. Rightly or wrongly I lay a lot of the parental dysfunction at the heart of the welfare system. That's what brought a lot of kids into the world with one already dysfunctional parent IMHO--the kids who don't have enough to eat for instance. Reform the "have a kid for free on the government mentality" and we start to get at the root of parental dysfunction. You certainly see the effect, I'm mystified why the "cause" remains hidden to you.