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Technology Stocks : ObjectShare (OBJS) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Pierre Aydin who wrote (138)	12/11/1997 7:33:00 PM
From: JOHN E.DAGGS	Respond to of 185

no, but i wish i did. I've been in this stock way too long. there is a thread on yahoo that is more up to date than this. Still no reason for the gain, but at least there are some posts there, that won't make us feel as bad as we have the past year and a half, with nothing but a blank to look at

To: Pierre Aydin who wrote (138)	12/12/1997 1:28:00 PM
From: Raging Bull	Respond to of 185

Unfortunately all of my contacts inside ObjectShare where ParcPlace developers that have been laid off or quit. I do not believe that any of the original developers from two years ago are still there. The original VisualWave develpers left in mass about 9 months ago. I have contacts in some consulting companies and manufacturing companies using VisualWorks but they have not heard anything. ObjectShare has been very silent in marketing the VisualWorks line and it is everyone's belief that it is dead from a product enhancement position. Their largest customer TI, is now maintaining their own vitual machine for visualWorks from souce code objtained from ParcPlace. I have run across two events that might have had some impact on the stock price but it is unlikely that they would result in a major price swing. The fact that the stock is staying up on relatively low volume indicates that the information causing the increase is in the marketplace. The first is a very recent reprint of a InformationWeek article on the ObjectShare home page for news. The article is a few months old but may have been posted in the last couple of days. The article does not state anything that serious object-oriented developers did not already know (Smalltalk grew 20% last year, Smalltalk is not likely to go away, Smalltalk development companies are in a better position to deliver Java products than other companies, etc.). This information may have been news to institutional investors however, which hold most of ObjectShares stock. The second recent change that represents more current information, is that ObjectShare and AppliedReasoning have recently started marketing an informational seminar titled "Scaling the Mountains of OO" or something along that line. This represents their first serious consulting and product marketing effort since their price plummetted more than a year ago. The AppliedReasoning partnership was started a while back and the pamplets were mailed over the last couple of weeks so it is unlikely that this could cause a one day increase of 65%. I will post again if I hear anything that is not from a published news source.

To: Pierre Aydin who wrote (138)	12/12/1997 1:39:00 PM
From: Raging Bull	Respond to of 185

Correction, I notices that the increases have been accompanied by much higher than average volume. Perhaps there is simply an investor that wishes to aquire several hundred thousand shares, or if we are in the wishing stage (which all OBJS shareholders that bought when I did are in), maybe the share value is increasing based on inside information that has leaked out.

To: Pierre Aydin who wrote (138)	12/15/1997 7:41:00 PM
From: Raging Bull	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 185

Check out the Yahoo chat site, OBJS has responded with a summary of their current action plans. The site is messages.yahoo.com The most interesting information is that a new version of the Smalltalk product (VisualWorks 3.0) will be out in February. The rest is pretty much a summary of info previously announced. Hopefully this will not be a secret with the VW 2.5 customer base for long. The "announcement" certainly did not help the stock price (down 25%). Maybe that is because the "real investors" use this thread.