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To: i-node who wrote (772497)	3/2/2014 2:41:32 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1576165

Dave, we have no response, no matter WHO is president. Look where this is happening: maps.google.com The only "response" we could mount would be nuclear, you moron. It's really analogous to our Civil War. Think of Ukraine as the South. It used to be a Soviet State. In the disputed areas, most of the people speak Russian. Russia has it's entire Black Sea fleet docked there. They really DO have real things at stake, other than dick-shaking. Other countries didn't send troops to OUR Civil War. We should stay out of this one. We're VERY fortunate to have Obama as president, and not McCain ( the horror!), or Romney.

To: i-node who wrote (772497)	3/2/2014 3:21:13 PM
From: combjelly	2 Recommendations Recommended By bentway J_F_Shepard Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1576165

When you have a weak president, you INVITE aggression. And the reason Putin waited all these years was... Why exactly? Now a sane person would figure it is because Putin sees the handwriting on the wall and the Ukraine isn't going to be a satellite for much longer. Losing their Black Sea naval facility is not an option. Nor is losing the other military bases in the Crimea an option. No matter who the president at this time, his calculations would have been exactly the same. For Putin, losing those assets would be the equivalent of losing a war. He would be toppled from power with few chances of regaining it. So he has a lot on the table. Given that Russia has very short supply line, not to mention 25,000 or more troops in the Crimea, there just isn't a credible military response the US can make. And the rest of NATO isn't going to be interested because it likely would disrupt the oil and gas pipelines that Europe depends on.