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To: Petz who wrote (2873)	12/11/1997 6:42:00 PM
From: Investor A	Respond to of 6843

John, Abit is sampling the 100Mhz bus speed motherboards using Ali's Alladin V chipset. You might get some informaztion about it from Anand Hardware page. The K6-300/100 samples running during the last COMDEX seemed to me the AMD640 which was overclocked to 100Mhz. My recent test on SIS5598 chipset (on ASUS SP97-V motherboard) showed that this chipset is very stable under 83Mhz bus speed. Thus, I belive that we would expect the 100Mhz bus speed with 2X AGP socket 7 motherboards based on Ali, SIS and VIA would be available during 1Q/97. It is truely exciting to await the performance enhancement from the 100Mhz bus speed. However, it is not going to be easy for most users to utilize it because of the RAM speed. I doubt if these current 60ns EDO could be recircled in the 100Mhz bus speed system. Not only that, lots of 10ns SDRAM might need certificates from motherboard manufacturers. It would certainly cause confusion and panick among all end users. :((

To: Petz who wrote (2873)	12/11/1997 11:12:00 PM
From: John Prugh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6843

John, I strongly agree with your assessment regarding the effect of 100MHz bus on computing power. Several months ago, I attended a talk one our company's engineering teams presented on their experiments with a PowerPC 603 chip (I think it was a 160MHz chip), and it was quite evident that a fast chip on a slow bus was little better that a slow chip on the same bus. There was not a significant increase in performance until the engineers increased the bus speed (I think they tried 40MHz and 66 Mhz busses) and memory speed. So you're probably right. A 200MHz - 233MHz AMD chip employing a 100MHz bus will be as faster or faster than most P2-300 systems.

To: Petz who wrote (2873)	12/12/1997 12:22:00 AM
From: Elmer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6843

Petz, I am not as convinced as you are that a 100mhz chipset is available yet for socket7. I've looked for them and never found a motherboard available. In addition, I have not seen an announcement from AMD that defines 100mhz specs, and indicates the current available K6 meets them. I don't doubt there are samples out there, just like the Intel 440BX appears to be available in sample quantities. This doesn't mean production. I even remember seeing 440LX motherboards available before Intel announced the part. The boards had engineering sample parts in them. If you have information otherwise, I'm willing to be convinced. Show me the motherboard. EP

To: Petz who wrote (2873)	12/12/1997 2:51:00 AM
From: Investor A	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6843

John, K6-250 (100x2.5) might be as fast as PII-266, but, not as fast as PII-300 due to its 150Mhz L2 cache. It would be a great achievement for AMD. K6-300 on 100Mhz bus speed would be faster than PII-300. Of all socket 7 chipsets that I benchmarked, Ali makes the best IDE driver which increase Business Winstone97 rating significantly. I expect that K6-300 (100x3) on Ali's Alladin V based motherboard might be at least 5% faster than PII on LX motherboard.