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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (246753)3/7/2014 11:44:53 AM
From: Alex MG  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541877
 
really?? "truffles from France"?

you think food stamp recipients are buy truffles from France

and you don't think food stamps stimulate the economy... never mind it's moral aspect

it's a huge fact that food stamps are a huge economic stimulus... one would have to have head up ass not to know this

and of course you think Krugman is an idiot, and it's his fault there aren't more jobs because of his "pontificating" for poor folks and the middle class

this is one of the most idiotic rants i have read in a while... even for you




To: Steve Lokness who wrote (246753)3/7/2014 11:53:38 AM
From: Wharf Rat  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541877
 
"when we dump such huge sums of money into the food stamp program, we are doing little to stimulate America or creating jobs here. Why? The money is spent globally;"

Food stamps don't come with airline vouchers. The money is spent in a neighbor or corporate grocery store, or at Farmers Markets, or "casinos and marijuana dispensaries", where somebody has a job ringing the cash register and stocking shelves.

"Infrastructure; schools, museums, bridges, tunnels, solar on every roof"

So how do we get the corporate grocery stores accepting food stamps to solarize their roofs at shareholder expense?

And, how do we get them to understand that cutting food stamps is bad for business? Ironically, the one who is putting in green roofs and all, the one we love to hate, is telling them. Nobody is listening, and so is Rat, but that's about it.

Wal-Mart: Food stamp cuts to hit profits

Wal-Mart Stores warned Friday that cuts to the nation's food stamps program late last year will hurt its bottom line. The cut in food stamps went into effect Nov. 1. Food stamps had been increased during the height of the recession, but that expansion expired without Congressional action.
money.cnn.com



To: Steve Lokness who wrote (246753)3/7/2014 12:58:59 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541877
 
The short answer to your point(s) Steve is that social policy at the Krugman/Ryan level of conversation is about the behavior of aggregates. It's about percentages that do this or that and the probabilities they will do so. As opposed to what individuals will do.

It's a given. If you wish to argue in their game, and it's the important game for social policy, you have move your thinking and conversation to the aggregate level.