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To: combjelly who wrote (773614)	3/7/2014 3:49:25 PM
From: joseffy	Respond to of 1570369

Putin already has Crimea, halfwit.

To: combjelly who wrote (773614)	3/7/2014 7:06:58 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1570369

Putin ain't going to quit until he gets Crimea.....and then he will go after the Ukraine......not quite as overtly. He needs the Crimea. He'd like to have the Ukraine. But after this, the odds are tiny. You know that's what's most annoying........Putin wants Crimea for its warm water port but the truth is Russia has other warm water ports in the area but they haven't been developed enough to handle the Black Sea fleet. He made a mistake. He should have kept up the propaganda and the odds are good that Crimea would have had a referendum by themselves fairly soon. The Ukraine is not going to be stable for a while yet. No question he moved to quickly. Bullies tend to be greedy. This way, he spooked the West. Europe is going to move to minimize their dependence on Russian energy. And that is going to be painful. The oil is pretty fungible, so that should not have much effect on energy prices. And cutting the oil off isn't going to hurt Russia much. But the gas is a different thing. That takes a lot of infrastructure to export, on both ends. So that will hurt. While I am not a fan of fracking, I will not oppose it for the very reason you cite..........it helps the US to be energy independent and it will permit the EU to be less dependent on Russia for their NG. That is why he is pretending those Russians troops are not really Russian. He wants to hang onto that business. He also did it in case it didn't work out. Had Ukraine troops moved in quickly into the Crimea his plan might have backfired badly.