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To: cheryl williamson who wrote (460)	12/12/1997 11:18:00 AM
From: Robert Winchell	Respond to of 1600

On top of that, Bill G. doesn't even have an answer for Java other than the truly pitiful "Windows CE". Huh? Java and Windows CE could not be further from being related in any way. How did you even make that connection? Unlike Netscape, their market isn't going to be challenged by MSFT, so they don't have to wait for the Feds to decide on what to do with the thieves from Redmond. What is SUNW's market? Their workstation market? Already dead. Their server market? being heavily challenged, but doing very well. The Java market? SUNW will not make a dime from Java by itself - Java was made to sell more Sun servers, which it will do. I haven't heard too much from the MSFT boosters here @SI about "stealing" Java away from SUNW anymore. They're going to have to conceed this one to SUNW. What have they "stole"? teh technology SUN licensed to them, which granted them the ability to modify the technology as they see fit? Read the license agreement. What are they conceding, anyway? It seems like Mr. McNealy is a pretty savvy businessman. HA HA HA HA!! Good one! Heeee heeee.

To: cheryl williamson who wrote (460)	12/14/1997 3:48:00 AM
From: Kal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1600

Microsoft has just merged with Christmas. To celebrate Christmas you have to have windows95. Christmas will be renamed Christma-Soft. SNL

To: cheryl williamson who wrote (460)	12/15/1997 2:14:00 PM
From: Mesaba	Respond to of 1600

I don't see any indication that Microsoft is getting nervous. They've got the size, vision, creativity, products, intelligence, and the marketing machine that have made them what they are. Not an evil empire, but a software development company. Because of their size they've got a lot to protect. The lawsuits will prove fruitless as the federal government realizes that Microsoft is simply redefining what an OS is and Sun realizes that they can't have their cake and eat it too. Microsoft is healthy competition for Sun and nothing more. Mesaba

To: cheryl williamson who wrote (460)	12/15/1997 6:52:00 PM
From: Brian Sullivan	Respond to of 1600

You might want to actually read the contract that was signed between Microsoft and Sun. If you read it you'll find that Microsoft is require only to ship and support the class libraries that were part of the original JDK 1.02. THe recent additions that Sun has added onto the Java platform are term supplemental class libraries and Microsoft is not require to ship them. In any case you would be hard press to show how Microsoft has violated any of the terms of the contract where as it appears quite clear that Sun has violated the terms of the contract that it signed with Microsoft. Here is the link to the Java contract signed between Sun and Microsoft: microsoft.com It is pretty interesting reading and not that hard to understand.