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To: koan who wrote (49263)	3/11/2014 1:23:06 PM
From: jlallen	1 Recommendation Recommended By longnshort Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

You spout NOTHING BUT nonsense....you are the dumbest of the dumb on SI.

To: koan who wrote (49263)	3/11/2014 1:28:04 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

She is hardly alone in her criticism. There's Tim O'Neill who describes himself this way: Wry, dry, rather sarcastic, eccentric, occasionally arrogant Irish-Australian atheist bastard. "About once every 3-4 months on forums like RichardDawkins.net we get some discussion where someone invokes the old " Conflict Thesis" and gets in the usual ritual kicking of the Middle Ages as a benighted intellectual wasteland where humanity was shackled to superstition and oppressed by cackling minions of the Evil Old Catholic Church. The hoary standards are brought out on cue. Giordiano Bruno is presented as a wise and noble martyr for science instead of the irritating mystical New Age kook he actually was. Hypatia is presented as another such martyr and the mythical Christian destruction of the Great Library of Alexandria is spoken of in hushed tones, despite both these ideas being garbage. The Galileo Affair is ushered in as evidence of a brave scientist standing up to the unscientific obscurantism of the Church, despite that case being as much about science as it was about Scripture." armariummagnus.blogspot.ca ................................................ Even fans of the show and of Bruno noticed the problem with the portrayal. "Still, you'd need a whole series to really flesh out Bruno's weirdness, so we're going to take a crack at filling in two big gaps that Cosmos: A Spacetime Odyssey missed. The first is his legitimacy as a science martyr, an archetype he is commonly strong-armed into. Last night's episode not only reinforced that reputation, but relished in it, playing up the violent tensions between the Catholic Church and Renaissance scientists. But the truth is that Bruno's scientific theories weren't what got him killed. Sure, his refusal to recant his belief in a plurality of worlds contributed to his sentence. But it's important to note that the Catholic Church didn't even have an official position on the heliocentric universe in 1600, and support for it was not considered heresy during Bruno's trial. On top of that, his support for Copernican cosmology was the least heretical position he propagated. His opinions on theology were far more pyrotechnic. For example, Bruno had the balls to suggest that Satan was destined to be saved and redeemed by God. He didn't think Jesus was the son of God, but rather “an unusually skilled magician.” He even publicly disputed Mary's virginity. The Church could let astronomical theories slide, but calling the Mother of God out on her sex life? There's no doubt that these were the ideas that landed Bruno on the stake." motherboard.vice.com

To: koan who wrote (49263)	3/11/2014 2:33:40 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

They totally got Bruno wrong. Cause they couldn't find any real scientist martyrs.