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To: koan who wrote (49425)	3/12/2014 1:04:30 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 69300

What an ignoramus.

To: koan who wrote (49425)	3/12/2014 1:52:53 PM
From: Greg or e	2 Recommendations Recommended By Brumar89 longnshort Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

"The bible was slapped together by a king a couple of hundred years AD, and it could just have easily included a bunch of other books." Really, which King in which Century was that? Have you got a reference for that? (I mean besides Dan Brown)

To: koan who wrote (49425)	3/12/2014 2:10:05 PM
From: average joe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 69300

Hebrew scripture started as fireside tales that became codified with the invention of writing and then became a dead end. Every culture has independently come up with similar tales to bolster themselves and dispel fear against outsiders. The early tellers and writers would be surprised pleased that Brumar and Greg believe their tribal tales today. What came down to the Romans was edited and politicized for their own use which made the Catholic church as much a legal system as a religious order. At least with the Catholic hierarchy there was a control base of educated people pulling the strings now any inspired lunatic with a bible can take a run at it. Here is a doozy invented by the Catholics who also imposed Original Sin on the faithful... newadvent.org Nothing composed by the Hebrews or edited and invented by the Romans can compare to Plato and his student Aristotle. Now the mantra is: “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov

To: koan who wrote (49425)

3/12/2014 2:14:51 PM

From: average joe

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Most of the apostles lived decades even centuries after Christ. This has been explained to Greg and Brumar many times but they refuse to listen to facts.

To: Greg or e who wrote (224)	8/8/2005 2:07:04 PM
From: Alastair McIntosh	of 518

You seem to be saying that Gnostic Christians did not appear until the second century. However it is likely that Gnostics such as the Essenes and Therapeutae developed the Jesus myth well before any literalist sect appeared. As far as your statement that Paul was just one of the "literalists" his writings suggest otherwise. The earliest New Testament writings are those of Paul who was undoubtedly the most influential Christian writer ever. It is clear that Paul's Christ is not an historical figure. When Paul speaks of "seeing" Christ the original texts indicate that "having a vision of" is the correct translation. Gnostic teachers of the second century viewed Paul as the "Great Apostle" and derived many of their teachings from his writings. The early church was so worried about Paul and his non-literalist views that they forged the anti-Gnostic Pastoral letters (Timothy and Titus) in his name. You are not even close to showing that my statements on early Christian views on reincarnation and resurrection are wrong. Remember that literalism was only one of many sects of early Christianity.