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To: rzborusa who wrote (774502)3/12/2014 2:17:23 PM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 1572501
 
Thanks for the comment, Mr. LA RAZA.



To: rzborusa who wrote (774502)3/12/2014 2:42:39 PM
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joseffy

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mexico didn't own it, they broke away

General Antonio López de Santa Anna, a centralist and two-time dictator, approved the Siete Leyes in 1836, a radical amendment that institutionalized the centralized form of government. When he suspended the 1824 Constitution, civil war spread across the country, and three new governments declared independence: the Republic of Texas, the Republic of the Rio Grande and the Republic of Yucatán.

did the union steal west vir. from the confederacy or did they break away. read a history book. you went to public school right ?



To: rzborusa who wrote (774502)3/21/2014 11:43:07 PM
From: Bilow  Respond to of 1572501
 
Hi rzborusa; Re the Texas revolution, some more details on what it had to do with Mexico at the time.

The reason Santa Ana didn't have any naval support was because of the Texas Navy. And who paid for the Texas Navy? Not the Texans. The Texas Navy was paid for by the Republic of Yucatan, one of the half dozen other Mexican states that were in revolt from Mexico City. For example, the first VP of the Republic of Texas was de Zavala, who was born in Yucatan and the Republic of Texas was an ally of the Republic of Yucatan.

Read the wikipedia article on the Battle of Campeche:

Texas had declared its independence in 1836 but Mexico refused to recognize it. In Yucatán, a similar rebellion had begun and was fought off-and-on from 1836 to 1846. The battle ended in a combined Yucatecan and Texan victory. A scene from this battle is engraved on the cylinder of every Colt 1851 Navy and 1861 Navy revolvers.

Commodore Edwin Ward Moore had been waging a campaign against Mexican interests in the Gulf and disrupting commerce, because it was thought the Mexican army was planning an amphibious assault on Texas in order to recapture the province. Moore could not fully refit and rearm his ships without expending his own funds when he put in at New Orleans. The government of Texas refused him more funds and Sam Houston ordered him back to Texas so the fleet could be sold. The fleet upon being put up for auction in Galveston, was not sold at that time because the citizens of Galveston rioted thereby preventing the auction. Moore disregarded Houston's orders, and allied himself with the Yucatan government, which was then in open rebellion against the central Mexican government. Yucatan paid Texas $8,000 a month for the services of the Texas Navy. Moore, now fully funded, sailed to lift the Mexican naval blockcade of the port of Campeche.


en.wikipedia.org

This is why Santa Ana's supply line was so deeply stretched in Texas. He didn't have control over the gulf of Mexico.

By the way, while Texas was never reconquered by the Mexicans, the Republic of Yucatan eventually fell. But their Mayan Indians revolted and they kept a separate government until their capital was conquered in 1901. But the Mayan hinterlands were still in open revolt until roughly the second world war. This was called the "Caste War of Yucatan" and you can read the wikipedia article here:
en.wikipedia.org

Before Santa Ana could march into Texas, he first had to conquer the Republic of the Rio Grande, which was the next republic down the coast from Texas.

The Republic of the Rio Grande ( Spanish: República del Río Grande) was an independent nation that insurgents against the Central Mexican Government sought to establish in northern Mexico. The rebellion lasted from January 17 to November 6, 1840 and the Republic of the Rio Grande was never officially recognized.
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General Canales and the remaining insurgents that survived the Battle of Morales sought refuge in San Antonio, Texas.
General Antonio Canales Rosillo traveled throughout Texas to build awareness of the rebellion for which he now fought. He also toured Texas to ask Texans to volunteer to fight his cause. [5]

General Canales was in Austin the second half of April 1840, where he met with President Mirabeau B. Lamar. [6] It is said that President Lamar privately supported the new republic’s actions, but felt that public endorsement would hamper Texas’ efforts to secure recognition of its own independence from Mexico. General Canales left Austin for Houston on May 2 to continue to build awareness and seek volunteers.

en.wikipedia.org

The undeniable historical fact is that a lot of other Mexican states were in revolt at the same time as Texas and the Republic of Texas was allied with some of them. There was widespread discontent with the centralization of Mexican power in Mexico City. The independence of Texas was not a matter of Anglos stealing land. Mexico was fragmenting at the time. And later, when the US and Mexico fought over Texas in 1848, Yucatan declared itself neutral and refused to help Mexico city. Here read some more Mexican history you didn't know about:

In desperation, President Santiago Mendez offered Yucatecan sovereignty in exchange for military assistance to the governor of the island of Cuba, the admiral of Jamaica, the ministers of Spain and the United Kingdom, but none responded to his pleas. Finally, the Yucatecan delegation in Washington made a formal offer for the annexation of Yucatán to the United States, an argument that appealed to some of the radical expansionists and the Young America movement. [15] President James Knox Polk was pleased with the idea and the "Yucatán Bill" passed the U.S. House of Representatives, but was discarded by the Senate. [16] [17] The war with Mexico had become more complicated than anticipated, and the US Congress did not want a second war with the indigenous of Yucatán
en.wikipedia.org

-- Carl