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Biotech / Medical : Provectus Pharmaceuticals Inc. -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: boomertree2 who wrote (12719)3/14/2014 12:40:42 PM
From: Khris Smith1 Recommendation

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Jack Russell

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Resign at this time? If you think that an over payment of bonuses hurt shareholder value, can you even begin to imagine what an exodus of the company's officers would look like, at this time?
Compensation has always been an issue on this board, however, in my view, this has always been a stock that will provide for huge gains in the future or go straight to zero. From my cheap seats, so far, the company appears to be progressing fairly well. I trust you also agree with the state of their progress?
I have to figure that at $2.40ish or so, you are firmly 'in the money' on all of your shares. I have to question why you would not trust management enough to wish their departure, yet continue to invest in them. I say, "In them" because all you have are the people you distrust the most, making up the value of our company.

May I also gain from your post that the settlement / suit involved mainly or exclusively you?

Nothing is ideal in the penny stock world, but this is one of the best ones I know of, and worth the risk to me. It appears, it is worth the risk to you too. Obviously, the SEC, and FINRA did not find any issues, they have a decent accounting firm (BDO as I recall or one of the other 2nd tier firms), and both of us are still invested.



To: boomertree2 who wrote (12719)3/14/2014 3:22:27 PM
From: jkrywyn3 Recommendations

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Bob Miller
Jack Russell
Mammon

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Here is why that is unreasonable:

Let's pretend you discovered a chemical that may be used to treat cancer (nearly all cancers). Assuming - that the drug is legitimate and will work - which after many many many hours of research, I believe is the case -

you leave your current company (which was using laser technology to try and treat cancers). You take your $20-$30 million dollars (essentially severance) and pour it into this new chemical (Rose Bengal). You begin testing, experimenting, and for several years you work on clinical trials. You devote your life to it.

Excited that it works BETTER than you had initially thought, and moving ahead in trials, etc, you get milestone bonuses. Much deserved. You're going to make the company and shareholders a ton of money, if approved.
You do your best to not waste money. No luxurious private jets, no five star hotels or business dinners, you use the top melanoma experts in their fields. You keep your same crappy office and don't wast money on new offices, furniture, etc. You only spend $150,000 to get where you are now - when the average to get a drug approved is $500 million and 7 years...let alone a cancer drug. DNDN spent $1.6 billion and 16 years...just for reference).

Saving the company MILLIONS, maybe tens or hundreds of millions, you feel justified in taking bonuses. Shareholders vote on a regular basis to approve it.

You're working on your SPA for phase 3. Excited to start phase three, you're working with certain people to give them the details and setup the trial design they wish.

Then the FDA Changes. They do a reshuffling and you're working completely new people.

Then the FDA starts changing laws and rules. You continue to not complain and try to reshuffle, adjust, and get what they want. Yes, frustrating.
Then, with lack of progress, in 2012, the bonuses stop. Then, BTD becomes a new option. Breakthrough therapy designation did not exist before 2013. They feel the FDA wants their drug, but wants to know how things work. They continue to run murine (mouse) and human clinical data trials, they continue to keep improving the drug, filling patents, and making things more pure.

The stock starts to climb. Then, 1/23 happens. Bashers lie and it crashes. They are called a fraud, even threatened with death, and are inundated with people who are understandably upset.

They continue working, likely nonstop, for months, to get the application, data, checking, rechecking done. They work with the FDA, consultants, etc. To get the BTD application in. They continue to work on what the FDA needs and feel confident that the FDA will approve it.

Tell me, how would you feel if you were being accused of fraud, or threatened by shareholders (a small minority) to be kicked out of your own company? Very, very unreasonable.

Maybe they felt justified in their bonses. I don't think, given the situation, that they were that outrageous. IF investors had problems, they should have voted against them.

But to keep rehashing it or to think of removing them (now, especially - that would really send things into chaos!) is a bit much.

It's ludicrous, in my opinion.

They have not done anything so egregious or anything illegal, or anything that has not been approved. But now investors know and can vote differently.

And the fact they were so obliging to return the money says a lot about their character. I probably would not.

And if you're long, you'd better hope they don't decide to get a bit upset about the way they are being treated and portrayed (I might) and start selling warrants or shares. Because that will hurt the share price.
I bet most wouldn't care if they had given themselves more stocks or warrants instead. But that would actually have diluted and given them way more cash in the long run.

Sorry to the longs who find this offensive - but you should understand that the nature of a biotech company is that it takes several years to see movement. So be patient.

To suggest you oust those who are responsible for the discovery, however, seems unreasonable.