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To: Snowshoe who wrote (105122)	3/19/2014 4:23:45 AM
From: Haim R. Branisteanu	Respond to of 217644

The Last Time Russia Didn't Invade Ukraine8 MAR 18, 2014 11:43 AM ET By Marc Champion There is a joke circulating among pro-Ukrainians in Donetsk, close to the border where Russian troops have been conducting exercises. It goes like this: Two Russian-speakers meet in the street, and one starts talking in Ukrainian. His friend asks if he’s afraid the fascists will beat him up if they hear him speaking Russian. "No," says the first, "I’m afraid if I speak Russian, someone will come and protect me." A few days ago, before today’s speech by Russian President Vladimir Putin in which he said that after taking Crimea he didn’t plan to further divide Ukraine, historian Dmitro Byli wasn’t laughing. Pro-Russian protesters had been ratcheting up pressure in Donetsk, and on Thursday stabbed an opponent to death. He saw worrying parallels in the period of Ukrainian history that he teaches at the Donetsk Institute of Law. He started preparing to evacuate his family. In January 1919, Byli said, the Red Army proclaimed a new socialist government of Ukraine in Kharkiv, having just marched a large army across the border from Russia 25 miles away. When the existing government in Kiev demanded to know what was going on, Moscow answered: “The military units of Soviet Russia that you have listed are not moving toward or close to the borders of Ukraine. There is no army of the Russian Socialist Soviet Republic in Ukraine.” The Red Army of the day had no regular uniform or Russian markings, just a red star on the pointy woolen Budyenovka parade ground hats they had found in the imperial storerooms, Byli said. So it was easy for the Bolshevik foreign minister, Georgy Chicherin, to claim that this was a fight among Ukrainians that had nothing to do with Russia. Indeed, there was a Ukrainian unit within the invading force. And in each town as the army progressed west, a sympathizer was found to invite the Bolsehviks to liberate them from the bourgeois government in Kiev, known as the Directorate, Byli said. Much as the government in Kiev today, the Directorate was recently installed and struggling to impose its writ across a new country divided by language and history. About two weeks later and with little opposition, Moscow’s troops had occupied Kiev. After Putin’s claims that unmarked Russian troops in Crimea were self-equipped locals, and the appearance now of pro-Russian “self-defense” units in cities such as Kharkiv and Donetsk in Ukraine, Byli was concerned that as in 1919, and once previously in 1917, Russian forces, helped by their agents and the ambivalence of the local population, would walk unopposed across the border, all the while claiming that this is an all-Ukrainian affair. “It was very similar to now, when you have protesters say: ‘Please save us Russian-speakers from the fascists.’ Only then it was: ‘Please save us workers and peasants from the capitalist exploiters,’” Byli said. http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-03-18/the-last-time-russia-didn-t-invade-ukraine

To: Snowshoe who wrote (105122)	3/19/2014 6:16:26 PM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 217644

it appears john mccain just highlighted a few countries on putin's radar which no doubt already showed blips let us see how many nato members support mccain's take would observe that neither the middle class of america nor the sub-middle class of russia can afford a neo-cold-war, but suspect the lower middle class of russia are more enthusiastic for a daring-do if the rumour is true that israel shall make a go for iran 201x, then fair to expect others would take the opportunities to fish in disturbed waters and settle scores once the lights go out in the agitated roadside bar should such be, not good to be small nations devoid of nukes and antagonising big neighbours let us watch n brief zerohedge.com John McCain's 11-Step Plan To Impose "Costs" On RussiaU.S. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) released the following statement on the need to provide greater support to Ukraine and impose additional costs on Russia in the wake of the Russian government’s annexation of Crimea today... clearly seeking the diplomatic way out... Statement by Senator John McCain on Ukraine “In response to the Russian government’s annexation of Crimea today, the United States should provide greater support to Ukraine and impose additional costs on Russia, including: “Pass the bipartisan legislation that the Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved last week, which authorizes $1 billion in loan guarantees for Ukraine, democracy and security assistance for Ukraine, targeted sanctions against Russian officials, and steps to strengthen the IMF’s ability to be a stronger partner to Ukraine. “Work with NATO to rush plane-loads of food and other humanitarian assistance to Ukrainian soldiers and civilians in eastern Ukraine. “Work through the OSCE to approve and deploy a large civilian monitoring mission in eastern Ukraine that could help set the record straight about alleged threats to ethnic Russians and reveal Putin's effort to inflame the situation as a pretext for further aggression. “Rush the modest military assistance to the Ukrainian government that its leaders have requested, including some small arms and ammunition, as well as significant non-lethal assistance, such as protective equipment, spare parts, fuel, and sharing of intelligence. “Work with NATO and other partners to support the Ukrainian government in designing and resourcing a long-term assistance program to rebuild and reform Ukraine’s military. “Enhance NATO's force presence, security cooperation, and military exercises, especially in Central and Eastern Europe and the Baltic countries. “Work within NATO to take all necessary steps that can prepare for the expansion of the alliance to include countries such as Georgia and Montenegro as soon as possible. “Expand significantly the U.S. and E.U. targeted sanctions against the most corrupt Russian government officials, companies, and financial institutions. “Use the Magnitsky Act to sanction additional Russian officials for their gross violations of human rights. “Take more assertive steps to isolate Russia internationally, including by repeated votes in the U.N. Security Council and a G-7 boycott of the G-8 Summit in Sochi. “Take steps to permit and enhance the exportation of U.S. oil and natural gas, especially to NATO allies and other European partners, in order to decrease Europe's reliance on Russian supplies of energy. “The United States and our allies and partners must remain committed to supporting the sovereignty, independence, and territorial integrity of Ukraine, which includes Crimea.” Seems like lots of spending, not much talking, and a whole lot that will set in place retaliation...