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To: Bilow who wrote (775991)3/21/2014 1:51:47 PM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574273
 
"Yes there are still booms and busts but there were booms and busts long before the Federal Reserve was created."

There were MUCH WORSE booms and busts, happening much more frequently. The Fed was created to moderate them. Which history shows, it HAS.

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To: Bilow who wrote (775991)3/21/2014 3:00:57 PM
From: RetiredNow  Respond to of 1574273
 
Last I checked, our Republic is almost 238 years old. The Fed's been around for 101 years, even though we had several abortive attempts at Central Banking prior to that. Our Founders and several Presidents fought very hard against central banking, because they knew that it was nothing more than a collusion of private banks seeking a profit. QE and ZIRP are profit centers for the big banks, although they have sold it as a boon to the 99%. It's the great con job of our day. Our Fed has done a great job occasionally...even a broken clock is right twice a day. However, in the last 30 years it has embarked on a trajectory of lowering interest rates until finally they have reached the zero rate bound. To continue easing, they began QE. What you don't seem to understand is that when a country embarks on money printing, it means that they have exhausted all other policy measures and that they are in the last throws of economic collapse from over-indebtedness. Financial and economic instability is a symptom of over-indebtedness and the monetary policy manipulations that our Fed has undertaken have been an enabler for increased indebtedness by Congress. So what is the ultimate impact of too much debt. Very simple. Too much debt lowers growth rates, as more money is diverted from capital investment to paying interest and rolling over debt reaching it's due date. Need proof? See the US GDP growth rates, as our debt has ballooned. In the years that we take on massive debt, such as in the WWII years, you can get nice growth rates, but it costs you in terms of future growth. That's all debt is...pulling forward demand from the future into the present, which mathematically reduces future growth. Thank you, Fed. Thank you, Congress. There's no free lunch.

multpl.com


multpl.com

DateUS Real GDP Growth Rate
Dec 31, 20132.53%
Dec 31, 20121.95%
Dec 31, 20112.01%
Dec 31, 20102.77%
Dec 31, 2009-0.24%
Dec 31, 2008-2.81%
Dec 31, 20071.89%
Dec 31, 20062.41%
Dec 31, 20053.04%
Dec 31, 20043.12%
Dec 31, 20034.34%
Dec 31, 20022.03%
Dec 31, 20010.18%
Dec 31, 20002.86%
Dec 31, 19994.86%
Dec 31, 19985.00%
Dec 31, 19974.39%
Dec 31, 19964.45%
Dec 31, 19952.28%
Dec 31, 19944.13%
Dec 31, 19932.62%
Dec 31, 19924.33%
Dec 31, 19911.23%
Dec 31, 19900.65%
Dec 31, 19892.78%
Dec 31, 19883.84%
Dec 31, 19874.45%
Dec 31, 19862.94%
Dec 31, 19854.28%
Dec 31, 19845.63%
Dec 31, 19837.83%
Dec 31, 1982-1.40%
Dec 31, 19811.29%
Dec 31, 1980-0.04%
Dec 31, 19791.30%
Dec 31, 19786.68%
Dec 31, 19774.99%
Dec 31, 19764.33%
Dec 31, 19752.56%
Dec 31, 1974-1.93%
Dec 31, 19734.02%
Dec 31, 19726.84%
Dec 31, 19714.37%
Dec 31, 1970-0.15%
Dec 31, 19692.07%
Dec 31, 19684.96%
Dec 31, 19672.70%
Dec 31, 19664.51%
Dec 31, 19658.48%
Dec 31, 19645.15%
Dec 31, 19635.17%
Dec 31, 19624.28%
Dec 31, 19616.37%
Dec 31, 19600.86%
Dec 31, 19594.55%
Dec 31, 19582.67%
Dec 31, 19570.36%
Dec 31, 19561.99%
Dec 31, 19556.57%
Dec 31, 19542.74%
Dec 31, 19530.53%
Dec 31, 19525.35%
Dec 31, 19515.49%
Dec 31, 195013.41%
Dec 31, 1949-1.50%
Dec 31, 19483.80%
Dec 31, 1947-0.01%
Dec 31, 194610.66%
Dec 31, 194548.83%
Dec 31, 194476.88%
Dec 31, 194378.22%
Dec 31, 194264.42%
Dec 31, 194133.70%
Dec 31, 194019.38%
Dec 31, 193923.92%
Dec 31, 193824.99%
Dec 31, 193743.21%
Dec 31, 193634.55%
Dec 31, 19353.77%
Dec 31, 1934-10.81%
Dec 31, 1933-26.34%



To: Bilow who wrote (775991)3/30/2014 4:04:35 PM
From: RetiredNow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574273
 
Sure doesn't look to me like ZIRP helps the 99% very much...

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Americans Can’t Retire When Bill Gross Sees Repression

bloomberg.com
Twelve years after retiring as a telephone repairman, Roger Wood clocks 12 to 15 hours a week at a Lowe’s Cos. hardware store near Glen Allen, Virginia.

“About the same amount I made 30 years ago,” Wood, 69, says of his $12 hourly wage. “I’m worried about my portfolio because of low interest rates, even to the point of considering full-time again.”

Feeble returns on the safest investments such as bank deposits and fixed-income securities represent a “financial repression” transferring money from savers to borrowers, says Bill Gross, manager of the world’s biggest bond fund. Workers 65 and older, struggling with years of depressed yields, are the only group of Americans who are increasingly employed or looking for jobs, according to Labor Department participation-rate data.