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To: Greg or e who wrote (51003)3/27/2014 5:22:20 PM
From: tbolding  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 69300
 
You are confusing the Israel of the Spirit with the Israel of the flesh when you ask : "You know Jesus is a Jew right?
The incarnate Jesus was an ancient Hebrew or biblical Jew on His mother's side and the eternal son of God on his father's side. Before his incarnation, Jesus was fully the divine and only begotten son of God on his father's side. Through his incarnation, Jesus divinized his Hebrew or human flesh. He became one person with two natures--human and divine. So the fact that the divine, eternal Jesus took human flesh did not reduce him to a mere member of humanity. When you asked the question about knowing whether Jesus was a Jew, you limited Jesus to the humanity that he borrowed from Hebrew/Jewish mother, the virgin Mary.
Your question implies that your understanding of what constitutes a biblical Jew" is far different than the biblical and Christian understanding. Jesus established the New Covenant at the Last Supper. Under the New Covenant Peter tells us:
Pet 1:1
[23] Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
[24] For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
[25] But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

Did you get that? "All flesh is as grass". Somehow your mind is focused on the grass (flesh) rather than the Spirit.
. You imply that a Jew is merely a genetic entity descended from Abraham. St. Paul has taught us that this is a false conception. Romans 2:9 and Galatians 3:9 clarifies the matter.
Romans 2:
    [28] For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
  1. [29] But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Galatians 3[27] For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
[28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
[29] And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

So I must answer your question about Jesus being descended from the modern Jewish religion with and emphatic NO. Modern Judaism and modern Jews are not the descendants and heirs of the ancient faithful Jews who followed the Faith of Abraham and who accepted Jesus. Many Jews accepted Jesus as their Messiah 2000 years ago and many more rejected him. Those who accepted him were Jews of faith and they, under the guidance of Jesus, established the Christian Church. Those who rejected Jesus established what is now called rabbinic Judaism or Talmudic Judaism. Rabbinic Judaism has always been extremely anti-Christian and opposed to Jesus.

Your misapplication of isolated scriptures to defend your false beliefs comes from the Scofield bible and Zionist media propaganda. Your accusation of anti-Semitism comes from the same source. I love all humanity, including the Jewish people. I hate rabbinic Judaism because it teaches lies about Jesus, about God and about Christians. The hared of rabbinic Judaism is not hatred of Jews. Jews are the first victims of rabbinic Judaism. Think about it? Little Jewish children taught from their infancy to hate even the name of Jesus and his teachings.

Your quote from Corinthians is taken out of context. There was a transitional period before the destruction of the Second Temple where this verse applied. It certainly did not mean all genetic Jews as you imply but rather that all Jews with the faith of Abraham would be saved during this transitional period between Jesus 's Resurrection/Ascension and the destruction of the Temple. Paul wrote Corinthians in approximately 50 AD and the Temple was destroyed in 70AD. That was a period of special grace before the judgment came upon the Jerusalem for rejecting their Messiah, the son of God. This is one of the reasons John wrote Revelations.

The Messiah did indeed come out of Zion and not out of anti-Christian rabbinic/Talmudic Judaism.

Your last scriptures also shows a lack of understanding of the spirit of the scriptures.

"28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. 29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. Romans 11"

It is estimated by some scholars that hundreds of thousands of Jews accepted Jesus from 33-70 AD. The gifts of faith given to Jews who accepted Jesus fulfill Paul's words.

What you have done is swallowed the anti-Christian propaganda of the anti-Christian Zionist and modern Judaic movement an imposed them on the holy Word of God. Your interpretations are all twisted to honor modern anti-Christian rabbinic Judaism/Zionism instead of honoring the word of Go and the teachings of the Church for the last two thousand years.

Peace and may you have the grace to follow the Word of God and the leading of the Holy Spirit.



To: Greg or e who wrote (51003)3/29/2014 9:28:13 AM
From: Solon  Respond to of 69300
 
"You know Jesus is a Jew right?"

Wrong tense kiddo. And a racist idea. People are people. They should not be judged by their race, religion, or skin color. Free thinkers forced the Christian south to surrender their guns and their slaves. We should not have to do it again. So walk like a man, BUCKO!