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To: RMF who wrote (69778)	3/29/2014 11:22:53 AM
From: TimF	Respond to of 71588

No, spills like that are happening in specific places with local effects ranging from modest to severe. Multiple local places but hardly everywhere, there are far more places that are not having serious oil spills related to human activity then there are places that are having such spills. Meanwhile oil seeps unrelated to human activity release more oil in to the environment than human activity does. True its usually less concentrated. The concentration of the major human connected spills is why they can have serious local impacts, but when your talking world wide effects rather then local effects that concentration is no longer a factor, since the oil disperses to the point where its effect is negligible. The Fukashima radiation is reaching our west coast as I type. The pollution from China is reaching the U.S. every day. True, but again a negligible effect. We're seeing the destruction of reefs all over the world. Here you finally have a real effect, but the reefs have been through a lot in the past. They have apparently been around for over a half billion years. Climate has changed a lot more in that time than anything we've done to it, or are likely to do soon.

To: RMF who wrote (69778)	3/29/2014 1:50:51 PM
From: d[-_-]b	Respond to of 71588

The Fukashima radiation is reaching our west coast as I type. At levels below natural radiation.

To: RMF who wrote (69778)	3/29/2014 2:25:07 PM
From: d[-_-]b	Respond to of 71588

Are you reading Mother Jones o some other alarmist tabloid? usatoday.com By the time it gets here, the material will be so diluted as to be almost negligible, the models predict. Radiation also decays. Cesium 134, for example, has a half-life of two years, meaning it will have half its original intensity after that period. ( The accident was 3 years ago ) In Oregon, state park rangers take quarterly samples of surf water and sand at three locations along the coast. The water is analyzed for Cesium 137 and iodine 131. Both of those already exist in the ocean at low levels from nuclear testing decades ago. The monitoring began in April 2012, when tsunami debris began arriving along the Oregon coast. So far, all of the tests have shown less than "minimum detectable activity," or the least amount that can be measured. Oregon's coastline is seeing less debris from the tsunami this winter than in the past two years, Oregon State Parks spokesman Chris Havel said. If that doesn't change, officials likely will disband a task force that was mobilized to deal with the debris. California regularly samples seawater around the state's nuclear power plants to determine whether the plants are impacting the environment. Those results all are below minimum detectable activity. Last year, Washington suspended its marine debris reporting hotline.