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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (9911)12/12/1997 9:21:00 AM
From: Alan Markoff  Respond to of 39621
 
Emile,
There is another way to look at Rev. 2:9. God sees the church as grafted into Judiasm not a seperate religion. Therefore the Church is truly a Synagogue. The false Jews are the ones that deny their heritage and make claims based on their man maid religion as they claim the Jews are doing. ( remember God is just). So if you look for a way to be harsh the same measure will be heaped up and poured out to you. The verses you quote as love show your fruit( and you shall know them by their fruit). I too believe the truth is love that is why I am posting my understanding. May the Lord circumcise your heart with His love and gentleness. Nancy



To: Alan Markoff who wrote (9911)12/12/1997 11:30:00 AM
From: Jane Hafker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Emile, I truly have nothing against you. I am not saying I am better in the Lord than you are, or have better understanding of the New Covenant. First of all, if it was as complicated as you make it, none would be able to survive the decisions they would have to ,make. And if you are truly Christ-like, rather than a follower of His philosophy, you could not possible be so unbendable. A tree breaks at the trunk and then is good for what------firewood? Hummmmmmmmmmmmm Is that why we are commanded almost to BEND?

Now I will continue repeating what Alan said because it was perfectly said. For you to see the truth is not my victory it will be your victory AND THE LORD'S ULTIMATE VICTORY WHICH IS THE ONLY REASON I EVER CAME HERE ANYWAY. I only wish the best for you as a human being AND AS A FOLLOWER OF CHRIST. Please look at what you are saying BECAUSE IT DOES TRULY SOUND HATEFUL. As in full of hate for no reason, as in full of hate for almost purely political reasons. This is not co-existant with the heart, mind and soul of Jesus Christ. He forbids us to pull up tares, lest the wheat be damaged. Here you have astoundingly good wheat, and it is placed in your face for total inspection, and you still scream to us all--TARES, TARES, PULL IT ALL UP AND BURN IT.

Emile, I stand as one intelligent enough to understand the New Covenant. I am probably as sick of other humans as any living person who walks on the face of the earth. I despise the treatment my Lord receives from creations who I would not let near His shoes, let alone unlace them. I fight daily not to echo the thoughts of my Heavenly Father who looked around many times, and once spoke in scripture saying that his creation nausiated Him. In that word.
I'll find it.

But this is nausiating me too. And most certainly not because of the lurkers. They are like voyeurs in the window. I'd rather call the cops and I will.

This is family. That is why I have been so disturbed by it.

You are no different that my precious, and I mean precious, precious in mind, body soul and personality brother in Jesus Christ--and frankly, very much like Him, I believe in most ways-- and his equally precious and perfectly matched wife, who both with frowns of true anger and their faces almost red with emotion yelled at me with others for almost 10 minutes about how deceived I was about thinking this boy named Mohammed (who had utterly found a true and deep relationship with Jesus Christ out of his muslim and dead catholic
roots ) could have been the saint in making I know he is. And also perhaps have a high calling on his life as someone called to break down walls with people like me. This brother's last act for the evening was to grab one of our church libraray books and shove it in my hands and say, "Read this, and then you'll see. The whole thing is worship of the Moon Goddess of Egypt."

Actually, this foolish brother,, who knew nothing personally of what
he spoke, shoved the perfect book in my hand. The one that a Christian brother, and intelligent at that, examined the oil problem from the spiritual standpoint and proved conclusively that Islamics in fact worshipped the God of Abraham as the God of Abraham, and changed His name to Allah, the name in arabic.

Now, you prove me different and I will change my mind. Until that time, everyone knows nothing about the problem, nor will they be able to solve an iota about it till they do.

You refuse specifics from this Talmud that is constantly thrownin all of our faces like a book by Aleister Crowley. Yet I have not seen you quote one word of it. I AM NOT UPHOLDING THE TALMUD.
PROBABLY I WOULD PRAY OVER THE TALMUD, PERIOD.
What I'm saying is that I don't know if you have ever held it in your hand or whether you digest it through a paragraph of explanation from someone else.

A little knowledge puffeth up, Emile, and also a lot of knowledge is a dangerous thing. And too much knowledge of anything can kill the soul and make it impossible to think clearly on a matter. This is why I have labored so long here with this. Because if you do not see clearly, rather than in a mirror darkly, after all of this, then I'm afraid you have been indoctrinated by kthe Fuerer rather than by the Holy Spirit of our Lord Jesus Christ. And the
Fuerer, as we know, was a dispicable social cretin with a pile of dandruff on his shoulders, until satan somehow turned on his switch and the illusion began.

And look as I may, I see no scripture that Jesus clearly said, so that we would have no doubt: " And the children of the promise shall go to the children of Japeth, and Japeth will come back and dwell and over take the House of Judah and Isreal, and New Covenant will be established forever."

You can't create scripture that doesn't exist. I don't know why I'm going on and on about this, but I hate to see you wasted, I guess,
on a hateful little moot point of who has the right to a few square miles. It isn't even that great. There are hardly any trees and animals. What is the point? What's going on here, it is beginning to strike me as madness.



To: Alan Markoff who wrote (9911)12/12/1997 2:09:00 PM
From: Robert E. Hall  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621
 
Alan, Who is Anti-christ according to the Bible ? 2 John 7,8, 9. " For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh.This is the deceiver and the antichrist. Watch yourselves, that you might not lose what we have accomplished, but that you might receive a full reward. Anyone who goes to far and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God; the one who abides in the teaching, he has both the Father and the Son. " 1John2:22-23, " Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ?. This is the anti-christ, the one who denies the Father and Son ". Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father: the one who confesses the Son has the Father also". 1John 4:2-6, " By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God;and this is the spirit of the anti-christ, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world. You are from God little children,, and have overcome; because greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world. they are from the world; ,therefore they speak as from the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.". All other nations and people who attempt to establish their own rightousness, other than what God Himself has provided through the promise made to Abraham, and realized in Our Lord Jesus Christ, is anti-christ according to the Holy Bible. This includes Jews and Gentiles. John .8:23-24 . " You are from below , I am from above; you are from this world, I am not of this world. I said therefore unto you, that you shall die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am He, you shall die in your sins. ". Please accept this as the pure Word of Almighty God as it truly is and forever shall be . In Christ, Robert