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To: Bilow who wrote (777327)3/29/2014 9:31:50 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1576208
 
In Alberta, Canada, a lot of geologists are employed in private industry. What do they think about global warming?

And a large percentage of them work in the energy industry...

Geologists are the outlier as to causes of global warming. Chemists, who also are predominately in private industry although not as heavily weighted towards the energy industry, track with the rest of the scientific community on the human causes of global warming.



To: Bilow who wrote (777327)3/30/2014 1:33:32 PM
From: koan  Respond to of 1576208
 
That entire post is nonsense!!

<<The scientists they are asking are employed by the government. >>

Most conservatives do not believe in evolution. All scientist's know it is real.

Scientist's shun the Republican party (6%) because as scientist's they know their ideas are wrong!

That is the answer, whether you like it or not.

What you posted is just made up.

need liberal policies so that they can buy their baby a new pair of shoes. Hell, I'd bet that 80% of school teachers lean democratic and it's well known in academia that the people who major in teaching are pretty much the stupidest people who show up on campus.

If you look at the liberal / conservative ratios for people with advanced degrees in science, but who work in the private sector (and by private sector I *do not* mean the businesses that survive only by their parasitical relationship with government, in particular, academia is now dependent on grant money from government and so are, in all but name, employees of the government), you will find that the ratios are reversed.

Here's an example. In Alberta, Canada, a lot of geologists are employed in private industry. What do they think about global warming? They are skeptics:

Peer-Reviewed Survey Finds Majority of Scientists Skeptical of Global Warming Crisis
Don’t look now, but maybe a scientific consensus exists concerning global warming after all. Only 36 percent of geoscientists and engineers believe that humans are creating a global warming crisis, according to a survey reported in the peer-reviewed Organization Studies. By contrast, a strong majority of the 1,077 respondents believe that nature is the primary cause of recent global warming and/or that future global warming will not be a very serious problem. The survey results show geoscientists (also known as earth scientists) and engineers hold similar views as meteorologists. Two recent surveys of meteorologists (summarized here and here) revealed similar skepticism of alarmist global warming claims.

forbes.com

Now when you go to the actual papers, you will find that the support for a "global warming crisis" is highest among people who are writing papers on the subject. But those are exactly the scientists that are being paid by government; as a class, their paychecks depend on convincing politicians of a crisis. So it is not at all surprising that they believe in it. The ones who were not so inclined, got better paying jobs in industry, working for the evil polluters.

So the way that the "97%" statistic is created is by trimming away all but the well educated people who are stuffing themselves at the government trough. If instead, you look for opinions on global warming from the very highly educated people whose jobs are not dependent on tax collections, those people are highly skeptical of global warming.

In other words, as is usual in politics, who you allow to vote is extremely important. Just like your side is always accusing the Republicans of restricting the vote by requiring that people do outrageous things like prove that they're a citizen, our side accuses yours of preventing educated people from having their opinions counted on global warming.

-- Carl