To: arno  who wrote (83 ) 4/11/2014 4:15:34 AM From: Neeka     Read Replies (1)  | Respond to    of 136  When I see these kinds of situations arise, I immediately think Agenda 21.  I need more information to make a judgement one way or another on this one. I've heard the Dessert Tortoise is thriving and there is an overpopulation in their range, but the BLM says they are not and are using that as an excuse  to ban free range cattle on public lands, so there is a contradiction.  58 ranchers have been driven out of business in this area so far, with Bundy being the last one standing.  The U.S. govt owns 84.5% of all the land in Nevada. "Federal Lands in the US"  strangemaps.files.wordpress.com  One tactic being used to remove the "human footprint" from public land is to make it so expensive people will just give up, and I believe they use this tactic because of their desire to push people into "sustainable communities." After all, It is much easier to control human activity if we're all confined to small spaces......cities being the prime example I don't believe in law breaking, but neither do I believe that all laws are uncorrupted. (See Harry Reid and the Coyote Springs Development. The culmination and finalization of the deal had a direct affect on the area in question.) My main concern is the prohibition of human activity from what has been termed "Wildlands".nwri.org  I also believe that the entire U.S. is a free speech zone, and that right should be protected at all costs.  Restricting humans to urban zones, and setting up free speech zones should concern all of us. And although I may not agree with his approach, I'm glad Mr. Bundy is taking a stand if for no other reason than clarifying who owns the land, what are our rights, are they fair and just, and do they preserve freedom?