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To: ManyMoose who wrote (28005)	4/10/2014 11:48:50 PM
From: sense	1 Recommendation Recommended By Tom Clarke Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 124875

The issue with the tortoises... is that it is dry in a desert... so there isn't all that much vegetation in a desert. But, then, when you build residential neighborhoods and water the lawns... there's all kinds of vegetation that results, and because of residential development and irrigation, people are collecting the "threatened" tortoise species to make PETS out of them (which it seems is fully legal... again exploding the argument that the SPECIES is at risk.) It seems the tortoises aren't exactly "struggling"... when there is a problem with a population explosion that has made them into a nuisance. It appears the story evolving as it is... reveals that the corruption in Nevada runs THAT deep... that it includes that the courts are blind to basic reality. The BLM "bought out" others ? The more of this story you see... the more it looks EXACTLY like an old fashioned range war... in which one rancher wrongly shuts off the water to his neighbors... only, with the Feds using "endangered species" and other ploys to justify wrongful takings.

To: ManyMoose who wrote (28005)	4/11/2014 11:24:05 AM
From: Geoff Altman	3 Recommendations Recommended By lightshipsailor simplicity Tom Clarke Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 124875

When I was a kid living in Chula Vista my brother and I found a desert tortoise and took him home. He turned out to be one of the better pets we had..... We called him Snoozer. During mating season we used to get Snoozer together with our neighbors tortoise named Titus..... Ever see tortoises fighting? They jockey for positions in order to try and flip the opponent over, literally, a battle to the death. Titus was a chicken though.... As soon as we put them together the chase would ensue. Titus was fast for a tortoise and usually elected to try a hasty exit.... Snoozer would always win in the end. Not sure how intelligent a tortoise is but Snoozer learned how to open a sliding glass door to get to our back yard.....and clover. Not long after we found Snoozer we moved to Brunswick Me. and took him with us. When winter started to roll around he'd start falling asleep all the time, so we put him into a shoe box and put him on a shelf in our closet where he'd happily hibernate. When spring rolled around we'd hear him start to call, kind of a high pitched tone...... Let him out of the box, good as new......<g>