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To: MGV who wrote (168324)4/11/2014 1:46:49 PM
From: pyslent1 Recommendation

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Ryan Bartholomew

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So you think DeWitt is right here? Why does that not surprise me?

Like it or not, Samsung has to answer to the Securities and Futures Commision of South Korea. They are auditted for what they report, including when they announce the number of revenue generating units they ship, as they do periodically.

I find that to be a lot more credible than the frequent misinterpretations that come out of the Apple-worshipping blogosphere. But suit yourself if it suits your bias. I've said it before, our BS meters are obviously calibrated differently.



To: MGV who wrote (168324)4/11/2014 2:13:37 PM
From: pyslent1 Recommendation

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Ryan Bartholomew

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They said they sold 2 million in 6 weeks during the last quarter of 2010. That was undocumented. When sales were documented, it turns out they sold 1 million in 52 weeks in the largest market in the world. And you don't find an inconsistency. Wow.

That's a different argument (and for the record, that was not DeWitt's argument). To say documents make you skeptical is fine, that's an opinion. To say that the documents reveal some "truth" of what would be a SFC violation is a different matter.

I'll even give you more fodder for skepticism by lining up the dates. Samsung's announcement of 2 million global Tab shipments within 3 months of launch line up with only 260K or so shipped into the US in 2010. There's another smoking gun for the conspiracy-minded.

Here are the facts as I recall them, take it or leave it. Samsung shipped 2 million Tabs to over 200 cellular carriers in 94 countries by Jan 26, 2011. It was a very aggressive rollout. They didn't sell through as fast as Samsung had hoped, largely because it was a terrible product. What we have learned about the device's US-only sales in 2010 or 2011 doesn't change the facts.

english.yonhapnews.co.kr

Moving along, 2011 was a terrible year for Android tablets, with the Honeycomb/Xoom fiasco and left people wondering if Android tablets would ever be successful. 2012 brought the Nexus 7 and rock bottom pricing, and the Android tablet ecosystem started to emerge with tablet-optimized apps throughout 2013.



To: MGV who wrote (168324)4/11/2014 3:17:31 PM
From: clean861 Recommendation

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mw1

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Back to this tired argument again move it elsewhere or I will.

It's very clear that those of you having this discussion don't agree on it and it has been going in circles for long enough.

I think it was clear the last time this went on that we were tired of it and its time to use some restraint in choosing the topics of discussion.