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To: Solon who wrote (52104)4/14/2014 6:08:30 AM
From: 2MAR$  Respond to of 69300
 



To: Solon who wrote (52104)4/14/2014 6:20:14 AM
From: 2MAR$  Respond to of 69300
 
Perhaps be good to review your post here with Richard Carrier
Message 29360352

What was interesting running a search on an old professor i had "Alan Dundes+Joseph Campbell" , found this very intriguing interactive associative research tool "Entity Cube", then seeing Carrier was part of the Alan Dundes sphere.
entitycube.research.microsoft.com

Now all becomes illuminated, Richard had been a student of Dundes before, then after going on to get his phd from Columbia in ancient history, formidable credentials.



To: Solon who wrote (52104)4/14/2014 6:33:16 AM
From: 2MAR$  Respond to of 69300
 
Prof Dundes was next to Joseph Campbell probably one of the more forceful influential academics solidifying the field of folklore in the global University systems as a discipline. Not the only one but was famous as he was tenacious in piercing the veil of all the self generated partial illusions in the reality mix of conscious & subconscious mind that human beings are always so often lost in generation to generation.

Professor Alan Dundes, his was consistently one of the largest attended classes year after year that had some strange attraction, for it was never uncommon to find over 150-250 students from all & every field & discipline wanting to take this very challenging grad level elective. ( almost a rite of passage, he was known worldwide)
en.wikipedia.org

Strongly opinionated, Dundes was not at all averse to the controversy that his theories often generated. He dealt frequently with folklore as an expression of unconscious desires and anxieties and was of the opinion that if people reacted strongly to what he had to say, he had probably hit a nerve and was probably on to something. Some of his more controversial work involved examining the New Testament and the Qur'an as folklore.

Shortly before his death, Dundes was interviewed by filmmaker Brian Flemming for his documentary, The God Who Wasn't There. He prominently recounted Lord Raglan's 22-point scale from his 1936 book The Hero, in which he ranks figures possessing similar divine attributions. [10] An extended interview [11] is on the DVD version of the documentary




To: Solon who wrote (52104)4/14/2014 7:00:26 AM
From: 2MAR$  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
Btw, did reseach that controversey of the history of Jewish historian Titus Flavius Josephus, his so called mention of "Jesus" in the controversial "Testimonium Flavianum"? With 100% surety that controversial " historical passage" attributed to him without any doubt is absolutely a forgery.

There is not a chance in this world, solar system or galaxy this was written by Josephus who was ineluctably a Jew, would never have written this. There are many debates & rightly so whether the passage was just doctored in rather than being a complete fake, it is with out any doubt a complete fake.

About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. He was the Messiah. And when, upon the accusation of the principal men among us, Pilate had condemned him to a cross, those who had first come to love him did not cease. He appeared to them spending a third day restored to life, for the prophets of God had foretold these things and a thousand other marvels about him. And the tribe of the Christians, so called after him, has still to this day not disappeared.

* After only 89 words of the above reserved for this miraculous fellow Jew, “wise man” and great “doer of startling deeds” Jesus Christ, who had an entire “tribe” named after him. Meanwhile in just the very next section Josephus writes at length about “ a woman named Paulina,” a great beauty whose seedy ravishing in the temple of Isis at Rome warranted almost 700 words. Do any bells start to ring here?

This screams forgery, Josephus a meticulous,prolific, professionally faithful Jewish historian writer, was intimately involved & immersed with everything to do with Jersusalem. Was there at the sacking by the Romans, that passage above is nothing but glaring fakery.

(Welcome to folklore 101)