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To: LindyBill who wrote (554664)	4/15/2014 3:34:58 PM
From: DMaA	19 Recommendations Recommended By Bill CF Rebel garrettjax Glenn Petersen Hank Scorpio and 14 more members Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793895

The guilt or innocence of Bundy is irrelevant. What the episode displays for the world to see is that when dealing with a Federal Bureaucracy we have completely lost the protection of due process. The BLM pronounces guilt. The BLM assesses the penalty. The BLM collects payment on the penalty at the point of many many guns. Social Security pronounces they over paid a benefit 30 years age. SS assesses the penalty. SS (via Treasure) collects payment on the penalty. From an innocent third party no less. Repeat for all of the hundreds bureaucracies that make up the unelected, unaccountable, Administrative State.

To: LindyBill who wrote (554664)	4/15/2014 3:58:15 PM
From: miraje	6 Recommendations Recommended By Glenn Petersen lightshipsailor MulhollandDrive Neeka prometheus1976 and 1 more member Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793895

That's a good and fair article. As a former resident who's familiar with the area, I have a few comments.. Some have claimed that Harry Reid is behind the BLM’s war against Cliven Bundy, on the theory that he wants the land for a solar project in which his son Rory is involved, along with the Chinese. I don’t believe this is correct. The solar projects are located north of Las Vegas, 30 miles or so from the area where Bundy ranches. That's partially correct. Bundy's property and the adjacent Gold Butte BLM land is not flat and is therefore unsuitable for solar projects. The so called "tortoise mitigation" proposed for that area is supposedly compensation for offing a few turtles in the Dry Lake Solar Zone, which is a scrubby crap hole located on the NE outskirts of Las Vegas, just past Nellis AFB. It is unclear as to whether the Reid clan is involved in solar development there. What is clear is that the Reid/Chinese mega project, located well to the south, down near Laughlin, has Harry Reid and his kid, Rory Reid, up to their noses in ethical shenanigans. Hinderaker also doesn't mention how Reid managed to "mitigate" all the turtles away from Coyote Springs, a failed, large scale development out in the middle of nowhere, which was financed by his wealthy donor buddy, Harvey Whittemore, who's currently looking at jail time after being convicted of several felonies.. As for.. The resource values found in the Gold Butte ACEC are threatened by: unauthorized activities, including off-road vehicle use, illegal dumping, and trespass livestock grazing; wildfire; and weed infestation. Gold Butte is the remnants of an old mining ghost town, as well as the name for the surrounding area. It has a number of gravel roads, as well as off road and 4x4 trails throughout. I've done some exploring with my Jeep out there, and it's certainly not pristine wilderness. It's pretty obvious that the Feds want to kick people, as well as Bundy's cows, out of there.. The favored developments include solar and wind projects. I'm not familiar with any wind projects in NV, but have visited a number of Reid supported (and subsidized) solar and geothermal plants, out in the desert and some located WAY off the beaten track.. The new head of the BLM is a former Reid staffer. Presumably he was placed in his current position on Reid’s recommendation. Harry Reid is known to be a corrupt politician, one who has gotten wealthy on a public employee’s salary, in part, at least, by benefiting from sweetheart real estate deals. Does Harry Reid now control more than 80% of the territory of Nevada? If you need federal authority to conduct business in Nevada–which is overwhelmingly probable–do you need to pay a bribe to Harry Reid or a member of his family to get that permission? Why is it that the BLM is deeply concerned about desert tortoises when it comes to ranchers, but couldn’t care less when the solar power developers from China come calling? Environmentalists have asked this question. Does the difference lie in the fact that Cliven Bundy has never contributed to an Obama or Reid campaign, or paid a bribe to Reid or a member of his family? He pretty much nails it with that..

To: LindyBill who wrote (554664)	4/15/2014 8:17:54 PM
From: Glenn Petersen	1 Recommendation Recommended By KLP Respond to of 793895

The assault on the Bundy ranch - particularly if the BLM follows it up with a second assault - is going to hurt Reid when he runs for reelection in 2016. I would love to see this bastard taken down. Brian Sandoval is the guy that can do it: Message 29444084

To: LindyBill who wrote (554664)	4/16/2014 2:32:54 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 793895

Not necessarily: <First, it must be admitted that legally, Bundy doesn’t have a leg to stand on.> He didn't have legal assistance and apparently conducted his own legal arguments. It's very unlikely that his legal situation was given serious consideration with unlimited money being available to his government opposition. A court order simply means he didn't know what was going on so the court found against him and rubber-stamped the assertions by the tortoise department. Laws are not necessarily valid and legal decisions are often found to be unconstitutional. Mqurice

To: LindyBill who wrote (554664)	4/16/2014 5:04:04 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793895

As always, John Hinderaker cuts to the chase... So it is possible that the federal government is driving Bundy off federal lands to make way for mitigation activities that enable the solar energy development to the north. But I don’t think it is necessary to go there. Rather–this is the second and more important point–it is obvious that some activities are favored by the Obama administration’s BLM, and others are disfavored. The favored developments include solar and wind projects. No surprise there: the developers of such projects are invariably major Democratic Party donors. Wind and solar energy survive only by virtue of federal subsidies, so influencing people like Barack Obama and Harry Reid is fundamental to the developers’ business plans. Ranchers, on the other hand, ask nothing from the federal government other than the continuation of their historic rights. It is a safe bet that Cliven Bundy is not an Obama or Reid contributor .