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To: Robert E. Hall who wrote (9915)12/12/1997 2:35:00 PM
From: Emile Vidrine  Respond to of 39621
 
"You are from God little children,, and have overcome; because
greater is He who is in you than he who is in the world. they are from the world;
,therefore they speak as from the world, and the world listens to them. We are from
God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us.
By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error."

Greetings Robert. Thanks for your inspired words. Jesus said THE WAY is narrow and few find it, but the road to destruction is wide. We have a living demonstration of Jesus's Words right here on SI. Some love the darkness more than the light. The CHILDREN know His voice and follow their Shepard. The chidren of darkness follow the dark light of the world and the dark light of those who openly uphold the antichrist. May the Holy Spirit bring those with sincere hearts to the fullness of Life in Christ.



To: Robert E. Hall who wrote (9915)12/13/1997 6:12:00 AM
From: Alan Markoff  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 39621
 
Robert:

Again you wish to blanket non believing Jews as Anti-Christ it seems like this is an obsession with you? Do you really know Gods purpose concerning the Jews? Anti-Christ is a very strong term it really implies that you reject both God and Son and have no belief at all, it also through the centurys depicts a Satanic type presence or meaning. It is more ethical on your part to use simple language as Non believing. Let's look at the following scripture in the New Testament since you wish to throw most of everything away in the Old Testament away to serve your own agenda to cast away the Jews from their God.

24: For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
25: For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26: And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28: As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.

"For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?"

Here God talks about being grafted into a olive tree the olive tree is Israel (Jews). The gentiles (who accept Jesus) are the part that has been grafted in.

"For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in."

The next part of the verse depicts a Blindness on Israel (Jews), until the fullness of Gentiles receive Christ comes about. He also calls this a mystery.

" And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27: For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins."

The next part makes mention of the Deliverer (Jesus) Which explains in very plain English that he will turn away non belief from Jacob (Israel Jews) implementing his Covenant to them (Israel Jews) and he will take away their sins (Israel Jews).

"As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes."

Now this is you Robert "concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes" Your continual attack on the Jewish people labeling them as Anti-Christ, Religion of death ect......

"but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes."

This last part explains it all notice were it says FATHER (GOD). It is talking about the Father (God) before and present, and that he sent his son to die for our sins. The love and Covenant of God to Israel (Jews) that you wish to discard.

I am sorry Robert but God has a long history in the old Testament. The Jews were Gods people, as depicted by God "saith the Lord God let my people go" (Jews) when Moses approached Pharaoh. If you wish to continue with your agenda to banish the Jews from there God you are a hypocrite in Gods eye, for no other than your wish to drive the Jews out of Israel to be with (Jesus) on his return, well if that is your wish, that day will not come for if you reject the Jews you reject (God).

As far as you and many others looking at the Jews affliction in present history like the Holocaust and many others. Many depict the reason of that for their denial to accept Jesus. That theory is absolutely lame, as proven in the Old Testament being the fact that they were slaves in Egypt as just one example. The Jews suffered many times before Jesus came but it is a fact that God was there (Jews)God.

Nothing has changed all through history the Jews were always threatened with destruction and as back than as well as today God will deliver his people. So if you wish to be like Pharaoh's armys you may find that the waters will swallow you up.

For your sake and to receive blessing from God learn to love the Jewish people and at that point you will find you will love all people whether they belive in Jesus or not.


Alan