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To: sand wedge who wrote (5803)12/12/1997 2:35:00 PM
From: norton kiritz  Respond to of 11888
 
I appreciate the offer to e-mail the aol chat scrolls. I would very
much like to see them. norton@tgci.com



To: sand wedge who wrote (5803)12/12/1997 2:39:00 PM
From: Terry Jackson  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 11888
 
Good work. Please include me in your recipient list.
tjackson@toad.net



To: sand wedge who wrote (5803)12/13/1997 12:16:00 AM
From: Daniel P. Dwyer  Respond to of 11888
 
Would appreciate your email
ddwyer@ix.netcom.com



To: sand wedge who wrote (5803)12/13/1997 1:16:00 AM
From: taxikid  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 11888
 
I have added some questions and comments of my own too bad i wasn't invited to participate..
I used boldface and my name to ADD my sentiment or questions or opinions.- i hope you enjoy the work i did...
UNC 1984 : Hello Gary..Glad we found you
Ozark10 : Yes thanks very much
UNC 1984 : Does everyone understand the rules
Rasbo128 : yes
Hbs5 : yes
Eddie10648 : y
KEVHOME : yes
Kkalan : yes
Scottyp235 : Good work, UNC
Bos rick : yes
BERWAY : yes
Rasbo128 : go
WCoogs : yes
Mir p 62 : no biting noe eye gouging all else fair
UNC 1984 : Gary will talk first uninterrupted
Scottyp235 : yes
Eddie10648 : unc unc unc
UNC 1984 : Faris will then ask some questions
WCoogs : agree
Eddie10648 : ok
UNC 1984 : We will then open to questions
MHGI WSA : are we ready?
KEVHOME : go
Eddie10648 : lets rumble
DCBTexas : no typos or misspellings allowed
UNC 1984 : Gary whenever you are ready..we're all ears
Eddie10648 : well
UNC 1984 : Gary...do you want to comment first or receive
questions
MHGI WSA : let me start by saying
MHGI WSA : i have no hidden meanings
MHGI WSA : i cannot answer all questions
MHGI WSA : some i will not know
MHGI WSA : some i cannot say
MHGI WSA : please respect my answers
Eddie10648 : k
Mir p 62 : understood..lets go
MHGI WSA : for they are just that
MHGI WSA : most of you i spoke to
MHGI WSA : i like
MHGI WSA : and its not a popularity contest
MHGI WSA : but i think you will like me to
MHGI WSA : i never hype
MHGI WSA : i never lie
MHGI WSA : i try to walk with in my boundries
MHGI WSA : and keep everybody happy at all times
MHGI WSA : gf is waiting for my phone call on any questions i
cannot answer
MHGI WSA : first question
UNC 1984 : Faris
Eddie10648 : ????
Bouhafa : Good morning Gary
MHGI WSA : Good afternoon
Bouhafa : Keith Bossey stated that AIPC is in negs with several
brokerage firms
Bouhafa : re: conversion of warrants
Bouhafa : and that a decision concerning investment banker
should be made by end of year
Bouhafa : Has that decision been made? What is status of talks?
MHGI WSA : Keith Bossey is a smart man
MHGI WSA : I cannot coment to his conversations
MHGI WSA : but i can say
MHGI WSA : aipn is very far along with a potential
MHGI WSA : investment banker
<TAXIKID:warrants as with stock or rights cannot according gowverning rules be handled by anyone other than a transfer agent... same way stock certificates are handled..any banker or fiduciary will do..
MHGI WSA : who that banker is im not at liberty to say now
MHGI WSA : i will say if they act in any way with aipn it will
ve a news worthy event
<TAXIKID>>NEWS as far as the fact that the warrants are ABLE to be called should be expected.. not an important news release..
MHGI WSA : ga
UNC 1984 : Faris...another question or follow up?
Bouhafa : Is Bossey correct in his assumption that company
intends to call in warrants?
MHGI WSA : ga
UNC 1984 : Faris...another question or follow up?
Bouhafa : Is Bossey correct in his assumption that company
intends to call in warrants?
MHGI WSA : george has extended the warrents more times then i
can remember
MHGI WSA : he already states to me that warrent conversion
should be in the companies future
MHGI WSA : for him imo not to extend them again would both be
suprising and folish
<TAXI- exercising the warrants allows the company to issue the shares and add the cash to the kitty BUT DILUTES the shareholders
MHGI WSA : go
UNC 1984 : Faris..
Bouhafa : Then why hire an investment banker now if conversion
date may be extended as iit has in the
Bouhafa : past?
MHGI WSA : investment bankers have many duties as you know
MHGI WSA : warrents, consulting, and capital are just a few
MHGI WSA : i feel who ever the banker would be would forfill
most of these duties
MHGI WSA : go
Bouhafa : That leads to my second question
MHGI WSA : go
Bouhafa : Mr. Chew's former employer Neste Trifinery is rumored
to be an attractive acquisition target
Eddie10648 : ?
Bouhafa : What are the status of those talks?
MHGI WSA : i cannot comment on rumors
MHGI WSA : or potential negotiations
MHGI WSA : those are the rules
MHGI WSA : its not fair and its illegal
Bouhafa : Well then let me re-phrase question
MHGI WSA : unless the company issues a letter of intent or a
press release
MHGI WSA : go

Bouhafa : Well then let me re-phrase question
MHGI WSA : unless the company issues a letter of intent or a
press release
MHGI WSA : go
Bouhafa : Can you tell us whether George's vision for the
refinery division includes acquisitions?
MHGI WSA : George is very acquisition driven ie kaz
MHGI WSA : gf is always looking for potential profit centers
MHGI WSA : to enhanse shareholder value
MHGI WSA : he is the largest share holder. lol
MHGI WSA : go
UNC 1984 : Faris...Your next question
Bouhafa : The AIPC story is currently a story of potential
Bouhafa : What would have to change in this story for the
roadshow to attract serious attention from W
Bouhafa : all Street?
MHGI WSA : the aipn story has always been a story of great
potential
MHGI WSA : i believe that is what brought us all here today
MHGI WSA : every time you see a news release the potential
becomes more probable
MHGI WSA : it is my job with gf and aipn to do everything in our
powers to make your stock have
MHGI WSA : real worth
MHGI WSA : not that i'm saying it has no worth now but i mean
REAL WORTH
<Taxi: my definition of real worth here? would be fundamentally sound and fiscally SOLVENT.. selling at a multiple of earnings as opposed to unrealized or unrealizable potential
MHGI WSA : go
UNC 1984 : Faris...a follow up?
LMPITTS : i need to interupt
MHGI WSA : go
Eddie10648 : k
UNC 1984 : Yes LM
LMPITTS : i am posting on the board so please no duplicates
Bouhafa : So, a roadshow would only make sense once company has
"REAL WORTH", correct?
MHGI WSA : faris don't read into my statements and come to your
own conclusions
MHGI WSA : i say what i can when i can
MHGI WSA : road show will be another building block in the aipn
story
<TAXI- shareholders need more than an unwinding fable or story telling.
Bouhafa : Just asking for your opinion, Gary
MHGI WSA : and when we go on the road you can bet your ass we
have something important to say
MHGI WSA : go

MHGI WSA : go
UNC 1984 : Faris...next question
Bouhafa : Last question, for the moment
MHGI WSA : go
Bouhafa : Gene Chew was top lobbyist for refinery industry in
DC for 9 years
<TAXI~ a lobbyist doesn't add value to the company-just a political marketing agent IMO
Bouhafa : He was just appointed Chairman of the prestigious
Asphalt Institute
Bouhafa : Now he heads our little company's refinery division
<TAXI~ I suppose he is as qualified as the tail that can wag the dog, but can he motivate workers to produce and run the show.... or just rub elbows with politicos?
Bouhafa : Is this a story that we can expect to read about in
the press?
MHGI WSA : we think the appointing of gene chew is a major step
for aipn to be a major player in
MHGI WSA : this field
MHGI WSA : this adds creditability to aipns management and team
<Taxi~ credibility to management and team? only if they plan on lobbying as opposed to conducting actual business.. No way ISO would approve of this "team".. nowadays management has to be proactive especially when dealing with possible environmentalists..and problems
MRSOT77 : Seismic testing only confirms the existence of
hydrocarbons, drilling confirms accessibility
MRSOT77 : please comment
UNC 1984 : Please refrain from comment MRSO..Protocol is in
effect
MHGI WSA : we believe mr. chew will be proactive and we also
believe we should se some press in the
<Taxi- how can a lobbyist become a head of a refinery and become proactive.. to be proactive one must be familiar with the old ways to route them and put in new procedures... chew is not a working man rising from the trenches...is he?
MHGI WSA : near term
MHGI WSA : go
UNC 1984 : Any more questions Faris?
Bouhafa : Thank you
MHGI WSA : thank you
MHGI WSA : go
UNC 1984 : I will open it up to questions now

UNC 1984 : I will open it up to questions now
Cathi48 : ?
MHGI WSA : Cathi go
Pruthfield : /?
WCoogs : answer mrso?
Cathi48 : Gary, will road show proceed in Jan. EVEN WITHOUT
additional news?
MHGI WSA : i have stated many times the company has many great
things to speak about
WCoogs : is wavetech still the one behind evaluation of new
data being done?
MHGI WSA : i must wait until all parties involved give the green
light to talk about it
MHGI WSA : i'm still answering cathi
MHGI WSA : i always believe their can be great news releases on
the near future
MHGI WSA : unfortunatly it is not my decision
MHGI WSA : i have more frustration knowing and being unable to
speak
MHGI WSA : then you have not knowing at all
MHGI WSA : go
UNC 1984 : Eddie...You have next question
Eddie10648 : k
Eddie10648 : how big is the chickaduke
Eddie10648 : structure?
Eddie10648 : Guess
Eddie10648 : thanks unc
MHGI WSA : it is 60 kilometers long
MHGI WSA : and geotech will be dropping its first line
MHGI WSA : to see how wide

NC 1984 : Eddie...You have next question
Eddie10648 : k
Eddie10648 : how big is the chickaduke
Eddie10648 : structure?
Eddie10648 : Guess
Eddie10648 : thanks unc
MHGI WSA : it is 60 kilometers long
MHGI WSA : and geotech will be dropping its first line
MHGI WSA : to see how wide
MHGI WSA : after the first line they will do up to as many as 25
perpendicular
MHGI WSA : because we expect the structure to be a regular in
shape
MHGI WSA : for example chick is like an under ground stream of
reserves
MHGI WSA : geotech will determine in its 2d testing
MHGI WSA : on the structure
Hbs5 : ?
MHGI WSA : and will be reporting its findings
MHGI WSA : to geotech and wavetech at the same time
MHGI WSA : as we get results we will inform the public
MHGI WSA : go
UNC 1984 : Gary...to follow up..I've heard fromsources the
Kazak's think it'll rival Tengiz..Comments
MHGI WSA : i speak with hugh pope at the wall street journal
MHGI WSA : he stated to me that in kaz the big talk is chik
MHGI WSA : it has been compared with tengiz im told
MHGI WSA : i guess geotech and wavetechs opinion is what really
counts
MHGI WSA : go
UNC 1984 : Thank You..MRSO..you have next question

UNC 1984 : Thank You..MRSO..you have next question
DOOPER50 : good morning/afternoon, all...yawn..
MRSOT77 : if the data from seismic testing is favorable,
MRSOT77 : what then are the potential extraction obstacles,
both economic and geophysical?
MHGI WSA : good question
MHGI WSA : aipn feels very comfortable with the government and
the people of kaz
MHGI WSA : these tests will tell us how deep these potential
reserves are as well as how much rock
MHGI WSA : and earth they must penetrate to get the crude
MHGI WSA : the geophysical work is a non issue due to the
tremendous worldly regard for the team
MHGI WSA : aipn has assembled
MHGI WSA : go
MRSOT77 : kaz govt failed in prior drilling of chik structure,
correct?
MHGI WSA : yes
MHGI WSA : go
UNC 1984 : Pruth...you have next question
Pruthfield : It appears that the greatest "concern" evinced on
this and on
Pruthfield : other boards and rooms is the concern about the
timeline for
Pruthfield : when to expect certain things to happen,
Pruthfield : Can you give us your best guesstimate as to when the
important items we are all
Pruthfield : looking for will be released.
Pruthfield : Suggest that you could use outside times.
MHGI WSA : i feel the time lines that are not met are time lines
of share holders and investors
Taxi~ Excellent spin.. my hat is off..
MHGI WSA : as far as the companies time lines
MHGI WSA : they have met them all , and are very happy with the
swiftnes the team is moving at now
MHGI WSA : and as far as when do i feel important items will
occur
MHGI WSA : i feel important things occur everyday and im very
pleased at the performance that aipn
Taxi~ important things? and of course the daily trading of the stock is irrelevant..
what else happens daily?

DCBTexas : ?
MHGI WSA : has already over come in this newly obtained liscense
area
MHGI WSA : go dan
MHGI WSA : go dan
DCBTexas : Would you comment on the kind of reserve barrels we
are talking about
MHGI WSA : gf aipn and top ranking aipn management
MHGI WSA : has already gone on record
MHGI WSA : saying that chikuduk is believed to be larger then
the other 15 structures combined
Taxi'keyword: Believed
MHGI WSA : when you come out with that kind of statement you
better be darn sure your right
taxi'~ unless you say believed then you can be MISTAKEN
WCoogs : ?
MHGI WSA : wavetech,geotech, mmg
MHGI WSA : go bill
WCoogs : wavetech is still involved in new data .....gathering
or just reading or both?
MHGI WSA : wavetech will be reviewing the new data as well as
geotech
MHGI WSA : go
Kkalan : ?
LMPITTS : ? from the secretary <G>
UNC 1984 : HB..you have next question
Hbs5 : Is there Soviet Data on Chikuduk or is Geotech doing
their seismic testing from scatch?
MHGI WSA : there is existing soviet data
MHGI WSA : geotech is doing 2d tests from scratch but
MHGI WSA : the lines have already been drawn for geotech from
wavetech
MHGI WSA : go
UNC 1984 : Kkalan...you're up
Hbs5 : Will these new "onsite" crews be able to put a number
on the reserves better than "potential
Kkalan : Gary...care to comment on stock action over the past
few days. We are down
Kkalan : to 4 1/16 today
MHGI WSA : potential is potential until oil is extraxted from
structure
MHGI WSA : now kk
Kkalan : Gary...care to comment on stock action over the past
few days. We are down
Kkalan : to 4 1/16 today
MHGI WSA : i do not care about day to day trading activity
Scottyp235 : ?
MHGI WSA : i am not unaware how it feels to be down in a stock
MHGI WSA : i do not trade the stock nor does gf or any member of
aipn
MHGI WSA : i do not have the imaginery crystal ball
<MHGI WSA : i feel this stock will have great value in time imho>>
TAXI~but day to day means little..

MHGI WSA : go
UNC 1984 : LM...you're turn...
LMPITTS : In terms of expansion, could we look forward to AIPN
acquiring new sites in Kazakhstan, or Indonesia,
MHGI WSA : good question leslie
LMPITTS : or the US as was recently mentioned in a comp related
release
LMPITTS : done
MHGI WSA : for those of us who have been involved in this
company before kaz
MHGI WSA : you will know gf is always looking for expansion
MHGI WSA : in what region of the world is next
MHGI WSA : we'll know in time
MHGI WSA : go
LMPITTS : thanks
UNC 1984 : LM...follow up?
CHARMS4EVA : ?
LMPITTS : no
UNC 1984 : If not...Scott its your turn
MHGI WSA : 15 more minutes for me
MHGI WSA : ok
Scottyp235 : Any comments on possible venture partners...Are there
any offers, and is there any serious
Scottyp235 : at this time?

MHGI WSA : ok
Scottyp235 : Any comments on possible venture partners...Are there
any offers, and is there any serious
Scottyp235 : at this time?
Scottyp235 : Serious consideration...
MHGI WSA : what i will say is that offers have been made
MHGI WSA : with who i will not say
MHGI WSA : aipn is currently in negs with many companies
MHGI WSA : both big and small
MRSOT77 : ?
MHGI WSA : if gf turned down a deal it was in everybodies best
interest
MHGI WSA : up to now gf has handled this like a true champion
Taxi~ it would be nice to know as a shareholder what was turned down.. and how it was handled... and on what footing we left such deals if in fact there was anything substantial the shareholders are entitled to know..
MHGI WSA : go
CHARMS4EVA : Heading into 1998, where do you see the stock
compared to 1997?
Hbs5 : ?
BERWAY : ?
UNC 1984 : Gary...Charms was next...
MHGI WSA : unc ?
UNC 1984 : Charms...ask your question again
CHARMS4EVA : Heading into 1998, where do you see the stock
compared to 1997?
MHGI WSA : i do not give stock projections i am not a broker or
analyst

Taxi- SEE ABOVE!!!!great things in future..

MHGI WSA : go
UNC 1984 : MRso..you are next
MRSOT77 : yes
DCBTexas : ?
MRSOT77 : will potential jv
MRSOT77 : finance drilling if aipn
MRSOT77 : attempt failed
MRSOT77 : ?
UNC 1984 : Gary had told me in advance that he would have to
leave by 1:15
MHGI WSA : i don't understand the question mrso
UNC 1984 : I promised we'd honor this time
MHGI WSA : last question
MHGI WSA : thanks unc
MHGI WSA : go
MRSOT77 : must aipn
MRSOT77 : succesfully strike
MRSOT77 : oil in order
MRSOT77 : to get joint venture
MHGI WSA : absolutely not
Taxi~ it better not be neccessary 'cause aipn doesn't have the cash flow to get a strike..authenticated..IMO
MRSOT77 : thank you
MHGI WSA : i just want to say it was a pleasure
Rasbo128 : ?

MHGI WSA : i just want to say it was a pleasure
Rasbo128 : ?
Bos rick : thanks you
Cathi48 : Thank you very much, Gary
UNC 1984 : Thank You very much for your time and insight...Hope
we can do this again
MHGI WSA : to do this today and as always feel free to call me
directly at any time to discuss
Kkalan : thanks Gary
DCBTexas : Many thanks, Gary !!!
WCoogs : thanks gary
MRSOT77 : thank gary
Rasbo128 : thanks
MHGI WSA : any questions you might have i just spoke with gf
Bouhafa : Thanks
Mir p 62 : thanks Gary...great job
Scottyp235 : Thanks Gary
CHARMS4EVA : thanks gary
DANCE2000F : Thanks Gary.
MHGI WSA : i will set up a listen only
MRSOT77 : thanks gary
LMPITTS : thank you gary
DOOPER50 : THANKS!!!
MHGI WSA : conference call in the future
Bos rick : soon please
Ozark10 : Sounds good.
Kkalan : great!
Rasbo128 : Great
Cathi48 : great
BERWAY : thanks
DOOPER50 : ? for room..
MHGI WSA : may you all have a Happy Holiday, tjis does not mean
you will not here from me or a lack of
Bos rick : *goodbye*
MHGI WSA : news until then
Pruthfield : 1/8 3/16 20x10
Cathi48 : :-)
DCBTexas : Is Al Dunlap going to Kaz???
Rasbo128 : good one Gary
MHGI WSA : thank you david for this fourm
MHGI WSA : goodbye
UNC 1984 : Thanks again to Gary
DCBTexas : LOL
UNC 1984 : Have a great weekend...
Rasbo128 : Gary???anything to support us before you leave???lol
Kkalan : Thanks UNC - for setting this up!
DOOPER50 : could someone please recap??
Scottyp235 : Was that a bone he just threw us at end? I have no
clue anymore.
Pruthfield : Tnx to all for organizing this forum (David) and for
the civility that
Pruthfield : was shown by all.
Cathi48 : Yes, great job, David
Scottyp235 : Yes, well done.
UNC 1984 : Gary has left...THANKS TO EVERYONE...I think it went
very very well!!!
BERWAY : thanks dave
Rasbo128 : Cathi???
WCoogs : went better thon I thought it would
WCoogs : than
Cathi48 : Yes, Ras?
Scottyp235 : I guess you picked a good group. Thanks
Rasbo128 : Merry xMAS explained now
Pruthfield : LMPITTS did u get to post to boeard?

I hope that everyone can see that most of the meat here has been presented and there were far less details than posted here over there.. mllenium is not investment bankers nor I/R.. can anyone tell me what there job is?
regards
taxi



To: sand wedge who wrote (5803)12/13/1997 9:09:00 AM
From: Walter M.  Respond to of 11888
 
Danotx,
Please add me to your e-mail list.Thanks,
Walter



To: sand wedge who wrote (5803)12/14/1997 2:17:00 AM
From: KS  Respond to of 11888
 
danotx,

Thank you for your offer to share the AOL scrolls of the conference with Gary at Millennium. I am interested in reading it. Please email to kaystill@gv.net.

Thank you,

Kay