To: Hawkmoon who wrote (105884 ) 4/28/2014 4:17:27 PM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 218043 Shooting in the back now! Out for a jog and gets shot in the back. That's cowardice. latimes.com That's who you are supporting. And the vicious rioters backed by Nuland. No doubt Kerry, Biden and co are in favour of such shootings in the back since they are in there encouraging insurrection. No, not now: <Are we annexing Indian reservations right now? Hell, if anything Indian tribes have more rights than many other Americans right now.. They can set up Casinos on any reservation and rake in a bundle of cash.. > You were saying it's in the Russian nature. If you wrote that about Negroes you'd be in serious hot water. Cultural norms are not considered to be racially imparted. That's considered to be racist. I happen to think you are right, in part, but that's another story. Hawk, you are going off the rails here: <But apparently now it's okay for Putin, so maybe it's ok for the Israelis? And maybe even for the Turks, who might just desire restoring their previous Ottoman Empire? > Crimea was done democratically. The local yokels voted for it. Russia voted to do it. Deal done. If New Zealand votes to become a state of Australia, and Australia agrees to it, will you send in assassins? You probably think that's different because NZ isn't part of somewhere else. So how about Scotland? Are you okay that they vote to be independent and become so, from England/Wales? How about if they then vote to join the EU and the EU okays it? That's very similar to Crimea voting to be independent of Ukraine, then voting to rejoin Russia. Note that it's rejoin. Scotland wouldn't be reconstituting a past political entity by joining EU. How about Quebec? Falkland Islands? Gibraltar? How about British subjects in Hong Kong being evicted into the clutches of China? It looks very much that the USA simply wants to conquer Russia and jam NATO through Moscow, by hook or by crook and by force, including shooting opponents in the back who are out for a get-fit jog. When Israel was attacked, it's perfectly reasonable that they keep captured territory. The UN didn't and doesn't go all-out to protect Israel. Israel is a duly constituted UN state. But they are all hot and sweaty about Ukraine. Turkey is planning and wants access to the EU, to inflict Islamic Jihad, which is well underway across Europe and is pretty much a done deal demographically, given birth rates. So yes, they might yet reconstitute their empire and bigger than previously. But the Mongols are coming!! But rather than go too far back in history, let's stick with the present and how to democratically resolve things in a nice way, without shooting people in the back. Putin was democratically elected, easily. You might not like him, as I dislike Obama's ideology and self-dealing self-aggrandisement, but that's what Americans think is a great idea. < These aren't my words, they are the words of people who have worked with/for Putin and understand him far better then either you, or I.. Again, Putin is an Oligarch in charge of other oligarchs.. He's basically the "God Father" of the Russian Mafia because he has his intelligence and military assets to enforce his will.. And he's also pretty damn good at the kind of propaganda the Russian people want to hear.. > They didn't want Gorby the Great, they did want Yeltsin and now they want Putin, not Kasparov or other options. That's how democracy goes. The second-hand "restoring the Reich" talk seems very unlikely to be true. Putin probably has greater problems looming out east than from the EU which is going to be up to their neck in jihad in a decade. Putin is probably not going to start insurrection in Estonia, Latvia etc, but it might be a good move if America's government is going to continue with shooting in the back and F-bombs in Ukraine. Obama is sensible to restrain the military mania. You won't like Dr Strangelove being in charge. Those Preppers might have the right idea. Hmm, better load up on rice and perhaps even buy a gun or three. Gold too. How come the stock market looks wobbly? Mqurice