To: Hawkmoon who wrote (105901 ) 4/29/2014 11:33:36 AM From: Maurice Winn Respond to of 218046 Hold some elections and referenda and that would say who wants what. And introduce Tradable Citzenship so people can abandon ship without losing their share of state assets and general value. Putin has got some "honey". A pipeline sending megatons of gas to Ukraine and Europe. When Ukraine let Russia use Crimea, they got a big discount in price. Now they are having to pay more like market price. If they give too much grief, Putin could put sanctions on, same as USA is doing. NZ soldiers are sent all over the world to help stabilize places and keep the peace. It doesn't seem absurd that Russia would do the same right there on their border, with their own vital interests under threat. Admittedly NZ troops are doing it within UN jurisdiction, in cahoots with USA/UK etc and Putin doesn't have UN's tick of approval. If the Euroserfs don't find a way to sensibly sort it out, they'll be like the video I saw of two bull seals fighting on a beach when a killer whale came surging up. One seal ran for it. The other seal didn't see the whale coming and was thinking he had the loser on the run. But the "loser" turned out to be the winner as he survived and the whale had dinner. While the Euroserfs fight each other, China is looming behind them. Genghis Khan went all the way across there. Umpty million of his descendants [including a couple of my grandchildren I think] and 1.2 billion of their compatriots are surging with a great appetite for methane, and other minerals available in Russia. If the USA succeeds in rolling NATO into Russia, that would incite China to do some forward defence work, perhaps at the Urals, but perhaps further west. Way further west. The USA has forward "defences", so China would no doubt take a leaf from their book. Especially since they are not defences. They are attack positions. Nobody really thinks Peoria is under threat, other than by surging Mexicans crashing the border by the tens of millions. It's amazing to see the conquest done while the politicians worry about Ukraine joining NATO. Apparently the USA financial situation isn't all that great. The middle class and bottom of the heap are feeling food stampish. The EU won't have Ukraine. The British are dumping the EU. UKIP is surging. The British are thinking of bailing out of EU's kleptocratic clutches. The British didn't use the euro - sensibly. They now have the pound which has remained good [near enough for government work anyway though only a pale imitation of its former glory]. Mqurice