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To: koan who wrote (782978)	5/1/2014 11:56:45 AM
From: joseffy	Respond to of 1577901

Retard koan omits the death of the victims. HOW STUPID can retard koan be?

To: koan who wrote (782978)	5/1/2014 12:14:21 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Respond to of 1577901

4) The gov was too eager to execute those people. What was the hurry? Why the eagerness? It plays to this primitive barbaric side of the human species. Too many people in this country seem to enjoy revenge and killing. --- koan you truly are ignorant. The guy with the botched execution the other day was alive in jail for 15 years after his conviction. How is that "eager"? Do you know what he did? he shot a white girl and watched while his friends buried her alive. If that was your daughter, I wonder what your opinion would be? Truth behind the shocking crime that put botched execution inmate Clayton Lockett on death row Apr 30, 2014 14:46By Richard Hartley-Parkinson Clayton Lockett was sentenced to death for the brutal murder of Stephanie Nieman when she and a friend walked in on him during a raid on a house 5288 Shares Share Tweet+1 Email Killer and victim: Stephanie Nieman was murdered by Lockett Clayton Lockett, whose execution went wrong last night, was sentenced to death following the shocking murder of Stephanie Nieman, 19. She was kidnapped, shot twice and buried alive in 1999 a month after she graduated from high school. Lockett was involved in a botched raid on a house with two other men belonging to Bobby Bornt when Miss Neiman and another 19-year-old woman walked in. Reports from the time said that Mr Bornt owed Lockett money and that he was tied up and beaten during the ordeal. Miss Neiman's friend was dragged into the house and hit in the face with a shotgun. Under duress, the friend then called Miss Neiman into the home and she was also hit in the face with the gun. Her friend was raped by all three men before they were taken to a rural part of Kay County, Oklahoma Lockett told them that he was going to kill them all but shot Miss Neiman twice when she refused to give her keys and pickup's alarm code. When she was shot dead, she was stood in a shallow grave that had been dug by one of Lockett's accomplices, Shawn Mathis. He told Lockett that Miss Neiman was still alive, but Lockett ordered Mathis to bury her. According to Tulsa World, Bornt wrote a letter that said: "Clayton being put to death by lethal injection is almost too easy of a way to die after what he did to us. ... He will just be strapped to the table and will go to sleep and his heart will stop beating." Her parents wrote an impact statement jurors in which they praised her for not backing down against Locket. "Right is right and wrong is wrong. Maybe that's what Clayton was so scared of, because Stephanie did stand up for her rights," they wrote. "She did not blink an eye at him. We raised her to work hard for what she got." Miss Neimen's friend and Mr Bornt were both later driven back to his house. Lockett was convicted of murder, rape, kidnapping, assault and battery, burglary, and robbery. mirror.co.uk Follow us: @DailyMirror on Twitter \| DailyMirror on Facebook

To: koan who wrote (782978)	5/1/2014 1:14:23 PM
From: one_less	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1577901

I agree Koan. Revenge is degrading to humanity and undermines any virtuous qualities a justice system may offer. It should never be a factor in determining the resolution of crime. The answer to all justice questions should be founded upon sound philosophical reasoning. When an injustice has occurred we should be seeking resolution which fair and is able to reconcile members of society with the nature of the event. In the majority of cases, where the evidence is fully flushed out, such a resolute determination can be accomplished. Heinous crimes, however, leave us in a quandary because there is no systemic resolution available in the judicial system that meets our criteria. What then, life? Lifers have been known to continue heinous conduct even while incarcerated, or to establish some alternative form of unwholesome deviancy within the culture of incarceration. Life is after all another form of death penalty, as we determine the circumstances and manner of death. In some cases, individuals experience it as a life time of torture until death. I would, since I have claustrophobic issues when confined in a tight place. It is easy to say life is a more humane solution but that is only because we don’t have to deal with the person as a member. Forgiveness and mercy is a resolute determination that is so entangled with the personal elements of heinous crime that no management of the perpetrator of a heinous crime can satisfy these issues. Therefore, it is no more just to say the death penalty lacks mercy and forgiveness than it is to say that withholding death as a consequence is merciful and forgiving. There is no reason I can think of as to why you think revenge is the foundation upon which a death penalty must be determined. I don't think of the death penalty as anything but resolute, while allowing society to move on with the confidence that such level of crime (heinous) will not be tolerated.