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To: koan who wrote (783545)5/5/2014 3:45:27 PM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1578296
 
>> How can you hand down a sentence worse than life in prison (like capital punishment) if you know you will sometimes be executing innocent people?

How is life imprisonment any better than death if they're innocent?

That's fucking stupid.



To: koan who wrote (783545)5/5/2014 4:18:10 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578296
 
Koan:" How can you hand down a sentence worse than life in prison (like capital punishment)

I don't believe it is worse. The two are not even comparable as I have explained several times.

>>>Koan: "if you know you will sometimes be executing innocent people?"

I know no such thing. I do know that innocent people fall victim to all kinds of injustice, the worst being that delivered by heinous criminals. I am always on the side of innocents when harm is being done. And I am always for seeking justice.

The logical error does not exist for a number of reasons.

1) When justice has not prevailed the unjust outcome as the worst possible conclusion of a case. A heinous criminal who has caused immeasurable pain and suffering and how has damaged all our sense of humanity is left in limbo, as are all those effected by such horrible events. A sentence of Life in Prison does not result in a just outcome.
2) I don't consider death to be a bad outcome of life, I see it as a good outcome. It is the natural conclusion of life whether well lived or not.
3) Scientific studies have shown that an increased awareness of our own mortality results in happier and more productive, and satisfied living.
4) People who view death as a horrible ending demonstrate increased morose despondency in their own lives.
5) In cases where good people are suffering from a terminal illness, death is often viewed as a positive passage from their circumstance.
6) You have not demonstrated that innocents are often executed via capital punishment, as you claimed. I have read accounts of criminals where the case itself was called into question after an execution but have not seen any where the executed person did not have a history of horrible behavior.
7) As an atheist who believes there is nothingness beyond death, it would make more sense for you to take a position for death of horrible people who have no hope of redemption in this world.
8) Religious people believe there is some hope in the hereafter for an executed criminal, where there can only be a lifetime of torturous incarceration with the life sentence.

What do you consider to be the benefits of supporting thousands of heinous criminals, benefits to them, to yourself, to society? What are the costs?

How can you ignore and/or dismiss the entire concept of justice, which is an essential requirement of social life, healthy relationships, and decent living, just to bandwagon a left we turn key issue?