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To: russet who wrote (50815)5/6/2014 8:42:14 PM
From: Bilow  Respond to of 86356
 
Hi russet; Re: "Synthetic graphite with the right physical properties for different industries to use is expensive to manufacture. Most natural graphite deposits do not have end product properties that are good enough for industry at a mining and processing cost that are competitive for all industry applications. Some deposits appear to have end products that can be processed at a cost that beats the synthetic variety. ";

Here's a quote from a company that sells natural graphite:

Synthetic graphite for these batteries currently sells for around $20,000 per tonne, whereas spherical graphite made from natural flake, with its superior properties, sells for around $6,000 to 10,000, a huge cost savings and a means of reducing the overall cost of automotive battery systems.
canadacarbon.com

At 110 pounds of graphite per electric car, the cost of the graphite is about $20k x 110/2000 = $1100 per car. That's the cost of completely synthetic graphite and it's not going to stop electric cars from being built. And it gives an absolute limit on the value of natural graphite, as far as the electric vehicle market goes.

Re: "please give me a list of the graphite explorers that may have promising end product properties and cost comparisons."

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Sorry, you'll need to get your penny stock scam info somewhere else.

-- Carl

P.S. See this explanation:

GIN: Well, it seems like if the demand is there, then synthetic graphite is a good market.

SR: Yes, and currently it holds a large percentage of the high-end lithium-ion batteries, such as those used in electric vehicles.

Since synthetic graphite is such a controlled product, the battery companies would prefer to use, in the short term at least, the high-end, controlled product for the anode because it’s not their highest cost in the battery and they just figure they’ll have less issues with inconsistency by using the synthetic today.

That being said, if natural graphite wants to compete for this market, it is going to have to prove to high-end battery manufacturers that it is a consistent material and that over time it can make a very good-quality anode. Natural graphite will be lower cost than synthetic, so if they can prove its consistency, then on an equal price basis, natural graphite will have a cost advantage.

GIN: Well, good luck graphite.

SR: Yes. That’s where everybody’s coming from. They just believe that natural graphite will displace synthetic because it has a cost advantage.

GIN: Do think that natural graphite will displace synthetic?

SR: I don’t think it will completely displace synthetic, but it has very good merits. The market isn’t growing as fast as people expected.

GIN: But the market does exist.

SR: Yes. It will still be there, at least for the next five, 10, maybe 15 years. I don’t have a crystal ball of what next-generation batteries are being developed that will displace this current battery technology 15 years from now. That’s the only downside risk.
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