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To: Brumar89 who wrote (54390)5/8/2014 8:29:18 PM
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If you want to get into that harmony-of-nature/design idea (how "New Age" of you) which is that ancient natural revelation of the human mind, you had better get off your rocking chair & look to the source---->Egyptians. If you want to get into the aspects of human love, adoration, poetry,virtues, respect, honor, ethics, morality, harmonious heavens with that clear aspect of hell & destruction, you go to them as well. Then you can add Metaphysics, Mathematics, Grammar, Arithmetic, Rhetoric and Dialectic, Geometry, Astronomy, Music, Architecture, Masonry, Carpentry, Engineering, Sculpture, Metallurgy, Agriculture, Mining, Forestry, Art and Magic. to round off the entire exercise.

European/Hebrews were by no means the pioneer of human civilization or discoverers of any original revelations. Half of man's recorded history had passed before anyone in Europe could read or write. The priests of Egypt began to keep written records between 4000 and 3000 B.C., but more than two thousand years later we find the poems of Homer still being circulated in the Greek city-states by word of mouth. Shortly after 3000 B.C., while the pharaohs were building the first pyramids, Europeans were creating nothing more distinguished than huge garbage heaps.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (54390)5/8/2014 8:33:57 PM
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In fact the Greeks themselves admit this freely , for all the major Greek philosophers studied themselves in Egypt. The Influence of Ancient Egyptians on Science, Philosophy, Metaphysics & Culture, the ancient Greeks traced all human inventions to the Egyptians, from Calculus, Geometry, Astronomy and even Dice Games to Writing.

Are we learning yet?

Since the time of Homer, Egyptian antiquity functioned strictly as a highly memorialized component of Greek history. Herodotus said it, Plato confirmed it, and Aristotle never denied it ranking Egypt as "the most ancient archeological reserve in the world" and "that is how the Egyptians, whom we (Greeks) considered as the most ancient of the human race"

Aristotle (384-322 B.C.) himself, writing in Metaphysics also confesses in Greek Hellenic language that: "Thus the mathematical sciences first (proton) originated in Egypt." Egypt is "the cradle of mathematics-that is, the country of origin for Greek mathematics". So, according to Aristotle, "the mathematical arts had never before been formed, constituted or elaborated anywhere else originating in Egypt only, Aristotle acknowledges the originality of the ancient Egyptians in his own words.

One of the greatest contributions of the Nile Valley civilization in Egypt to the world was its educational system. The ultimate aim of education in ancient Kemet was for a person to become "one with God," to "become like God" or "to become godlike through the revision of one's own 'Neter' of how god is revealed in the person." "Education in ancient Egypt was religious at its base." At age seven, the brightest boys in Egypt were selected for training in the priesthood.

This was the highest honor that could be possibly bestowed on a family-the selection of a son for admission into a caste of brilliant thinkers, the "guardians of the state" whom Plato so greatly admired and wrote about. When the boys (Neophytes) entered the Temple/schools (or Grand Lodge) they had to study for 40 years - subjects as Grammar, Arithmetic, Rhetoric and Dialectic, Geometry, Astronomy, Music, Architecture, Masonry, Carpentry, Engineering, Sculpture, Metallurgy, Agriculture, Mining, Forestry, Art and Magic.

The Neophyte was vigorously trained in how to:

1. Control his thoughts

2. Control his actions

3. Have devotion of purpose

4. Have faith in the ability of his master to teach him the truth

5. Have faith in himself to assimilate the truth

6. Have faith in himself to wield the truth

7. Be free from resentment under the experience of persecution

8. Be free from resentment under experience of wrong

9. Cultivate the ability to distinguish between the real and the unreal (i.e., he must have a sense of values)

10. Cultivate the ability to distinguish between right and wrong

Plato, who greatly admired the Egyptian education system and actually recommended that it be introduced into Greece, copied/imitated/derived his three "cardinal virtues" from these ten goals the neophyte had to attain in the Nile Valley. "Control of thoughts and action," Plato called the "virtue of wisdom;" "freedom of resentment under persecution" Plato called the "virtue of fortitude;" "the ability to distinguish between right and wrong and between the real and unreal," Plato called the "virtues of justice and temperance."

The fact of the matter is that the famous, well known Greeks (Europeans) whom we study and revere in school curricula today all studied at the feet of the ancient Egyptians–Afrikans in the Nile Valley, Kemet. For example, Plato studied at the Temple of Waset for 11 years; Aristotle was there for 11-13 years; Socrates 15 years Euclid stayed for 10-11 years; Pythegoras for 22 yeasrs; Hypocrates studies for 20 years; and the other Greeks who matriculated at Waset included Diodorus, Solon, Thales, Archimides, and Euripides. Indeed, the Greek, St. Clement of Alexanddria, once said that if you were to write a book of 1,000 pages, you would not be able to put down the names of all the Greeks who went to Kemet to be educated and even those who did not surreptitiously claim they went because it was prestigious. " Herodotus said it, Plato confirmed it and Aristotle never denied it".

The fact of the matter is that it took 40 years to graduate/matriculate from Waset; this then means that none of the Greeks graduated.

Dr. Obenga points out this significant Kemet-Greece linkage:

I Thales (624-547 B.C.) was the first (protos) Greek student to receive his training from Egyptian priests in the Nile Valley.

II Plato (428-347 B.C.) records that Thales was educated in Egypt under the priests.

III Proclus (Neoplationist, 420-485 A.D.) Reports that Thales introduced science, philosophy and mathematics/geometry to Greece.

IV Greek intellectual life started with the Egyptian-trained student, Thales. He was the founder of the first Greek school of philosophy and science.

V Thales strongly recommended that Pythagoras travel to Egypt to receive his basic education and to converse as often as possible with the priests of Memphis and Thekes.

VI In the fall of 332 B.C. when Alexander invaded Egypt, Aristotle accompanied him

VII Aristotle ranked the country of the Pharaohs (Egypt) the most ancient archaeological reserve in the world. He wrote "That is how the Egyptians whom we considered as the most ancient of the human race". (Obenga, pp. 28-45).

The Temple of Waset, the world's first university, and known as "the septer" was built during the reign of Amenhotep III in the XVIII Dynasty, ca 1391 B.C. At its zenith, it educated 80,000 students.

Many people today believe that the words "man know thyself" (in Greek, qnothi seauton) were originally written and spoken by the Greek philosopher, Socrates. The ancient Egyptians wrote these words on the outside of their Temples in the Nile Valley and addressed these words to the neophytes - one of whom was the student Socrates himself. In a companion scenario, the originality of the words "eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we shall die," has been assigned to the Greek philosopher Socrates, whereas history proves that the inventor who coined these words is Imhotep, the Afrikan deity and "the world's first recorded multi-genius." He built the world's first stone building–the Step pyramid at Saqqara circa 2630 B.C.



To: Brumar89 who wrote (54390)5/8/2014 9:24:40 PM
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Solon, Plato, Aristotle & Socrates & Diogenes, or you can forward 4 centuries up to Musonius Rufus & Epectitus...

The point you are missing trying to prove the defense of authenticity of dating scripture, is ---->moot deflection. There is absolutely nothing in Christian, Judaic or Islamic scripture or theurgy that is even remotely original and even today the doctrines you think you hold so dear are as nebulous & varied today among the sects, as they were 2,000yrs ago

Even go back 2700 yrs ago, we find the Vatican even today essentially expounding the doctrine of the Persian Zoroastrians, apparently the Roman Catholic Church decided to remain Zoroastrians in there eschatology, ideas of evil & good, heaven & hell, angels & demons.

Nov 15th 1972.... this is pure Persian mythology here:

In Rome, Pope Paul VI inspired a debate within the Roman Catholic Church about whether Satan was a real being, or a metaphor for evil. In addressing an audience in a speech entitled "Liberaci dal male" ("Deliver us from evil"), the Pontiff spoke in Italian, and was quoted in one translation as saying "The evil which exists in the world is the result and an effect of the attack upon us and our society by a dark and hostile agent, the devil. Evil is not only a privation, but a living, spiritual, corrupt and corrupting being".