To: Maurice Winn who wrote (106031 ) 5/9/2014 8:07:59 PM From: GPS Info Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 219928 Crimea then was of course not part of Ukraine so I guess you are happy that the status quo there has been returned to "normal". Why do you think this? I’m neither happy nor unhappy with the current status of Crimea. I wouldn’t have cared if Ukraine had decided to stay affiliated with Putin’s new Soviet power circle. I said earlier that, in that case, I wouldn’t have bothered with my opinions on SI. This land grab is more important for the European Union because of the gas supplies through the Ukraine than it is for an American. Russia’s GDP is roughly that of California and the Ukraine’s GDP is that of Oklahoma. Crimea’s GDP is less than $5 billion. Haiti is rich in comparison at $13 billion. If Putin is happy with less than half of Haiti, maybe the EU will try looking the other way. Something like 2100 local yokel casualties in the wars between the British Empire and a few Maori tribes. Well, I’m not necessarily unhappy with the 2100 local yokel casualties between the Brits and the Moari. It was no skin off my nose; however, this does lead to a new point. I think one of the (many) differences in our views is that I’m concerned with the political systems and ideologies that lead to massive deaths through political decisions. I don’t believe the British government of 1845 to 1872 is the same political entity as the UK government of today. A similar case is true for the US and the killing of Native Americans in the 18th and 19th Century. I think you could make a case for the Vietnam War, except that President Obama doesn’t have that experience. I do think that Putin is reconstructing a Stalinist-like political entity that will have negative repercussions for Ukraine and other countries. And yes, there are still living people today who suffered from the conflicts in Ukraine and all around the world, such as Japan's conquest of much of Asia. If someone were a pacifist and/or an appeaser, I guess the first step might be to be dismissive of large-scale slaughters. I suppose you think this is just water under the bridge. You can go back in the history of Crimea for thousands of years. As you can do everywhere. What matters is where to from here. Of course you would say that, wouldn’t you? I don’t want to go back a thousand years, in fact, I don’t want to go much before WWII. After the war, many countries went through great changes to stabilize into their current democratic forms, and we created the United Nations to prevent similar levels of carnage. If a country is a signatory of the UN Charter, then they now have obligations of international behavior that are importantly different from those of the 19th Century and before. But if you want to re-enact, for real, old time wars, we could celebrate by having World War III Why do you think I want to re-enact anything? It appears that you are suggesting that we appease Russia with their annexation of Crimea, and just move on – water under the bridge and all.