To: i-node who wrote (169958 ) 5/29/2014 7:35:55 AM From: Ryan Bartholomew Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 213176 Auto manufacturers can't just stick something new in the dash. The testing process is arduous, involving extended tweaking of the UI and integration with the car's systems. Auto OEMs cannot tolerate safety risks or recalls. That's why it takes so long before the product actually makes it into OEM vehicles. While they've cut that lead time it continues to be a substantial impediment.While protocols have been established, they're still feeling their way around this process as to how open they can be. The problem is "joint and several" liability -- if anything goes wrong, Apple's going to get sued, the automaker is going to get sued, and everyone in between. If you're an automaker and you've got Apple wanting access and a plethora of Android devices wanting access, how accommodating are you going to be to each? I have no connection with the auto industry or anything, but if *I* were running GM I know I would tend toward more flexibility with Apple than with these other manufacturers.Protocols can do a lot to mitigate the exposure. But it seems to me Apple is going to be operating at a distinct advantage for some time. I like your reasoning in general. I differ in that I think it's not a question of a "plethora of Android devices" - it's a question of iOS (or a variant thereof) versus Android (or a variant thereof), and Android itself is now unified in that the "fragmentation" issues from its infancy are no longer a problem. More specifically, auto makers shouldn't have to worry about compatibility as long as they use a current version that can be updated. As far as liability and reliability, because of the open nature, I actually see Android as posing a lower liability risk. If something is found wrong with the Apple infrastructure, any negligence is going to be inherently heaped upon the company.I don't think a bigger iPhone detracts; but there is nothing innovative about it. Like Jobs, I think Apple had it right to begin with. But the truth is that it turns out some people will carry around cell phones the size of a skillet, so why not sell into that market and see what happens? Truth is, I see no real innovation in any smart phones right now. I agree, and it seems you are supporting my point that the concerns over a lack of innovation haven't been allayed. But you're saying it's not just Apple, but the segment in general.