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To: Land Shark who wrote (52770)5/29/2014 6:46:13 PM
From: Sdgla  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 86355
 
Outlier ? Bee's ? Polar Bears ? Ice Caps ? Fish ? Oysters ? Which is the outlier {besides you} ?

Please tell me which is extinct ?

waiting.



To: Land Shark who wrote (52770)5/29/2014 7:37:55 PM
From: Bilow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 86355
 
Hi Land Shark; Re: "Fact is that we're in the middle of a mass extinction event NOW. Extinction rate is 1000x higher than it would be otherwise.";

The basic problem with lefties is that they are amazingly gullible. Let's look at the literature and see how the extinction thing is doing, LOL.

The fact that we're in the middle of an extinction epidemic is due to crap reports like this one:

Extinction Rate Across The Globe Reaches Historical Proportions (2002)
Half of all living bird and mammal species will be gone within 200 or 300 years, according to a botany professor at The University of Texas at Austin.
sciencedaily.com

But the way science works is that when you make an outrageous statement, the other scientists react by correcting it. Here's better research, more recent, published in a better journal (Science):

Extinction rates not as bad as feared ... for now: Scientists challenge common belief (2013)
Concerns that many animals are becoming extinct, before scientists even have time to identify them, are greatly overstated, according Griffith University researcher, Professor Nigel Stork. Professor Stork has taken part in an international study, the findings of which have been detailed in "Can we name Earth's species before they go extinct?" published in the journal Science.
sciencedaily.com

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Mammals are relatively large creatures and it's relatively easy to figure out if they're extinct or not. So how many mammals have gone extinct these last 20 years? And why? We go to wikipedia, here is the list:

Cebu Warty Pig (2000, Philippines)
Majorcan Hare (1980s, Majorca, Spain)
Lord Howe Long-eared Bat (1996, Australia)
Sturdee's Pipistrelle (2000, Japan) [26]
Christmas Island pipistrelle (2009, Christmas Island)
Baiji (2006, China) (officially listed as functionally extinct; it is possible that a few aging individuals still survive)
Pyrenean Ibex (2000, Pyrenees)
Western Black Rhinoceros (2011, West Africa) [33]
en.wikipedia.org

In addition to the above, there are also two subspecies. Now let's look up why they went extinct:

Cebu Warty Pig: Habitat destruction
Majorcan Hare: Actually a subspecies of the Granada hare and not known to be extinct.
Lord Howe Long-eared Bat: It is known only from a single skull found on Lord Howe Island in 1972 and dated to the twentieth century.
Sturdee's Pipistrelle: Not seen for over 100 years, so probably not a recent extinction
Christmas Island pipistrelle: Unknown. Possibly: Introduced species, predation, disease, pesticides
Baiji: Chinese ate it during Great Leap Forward, shipping, fishing gear, dam
Pyrenean Ibex: Hunting pressure, competition with sheep, domestic goats, cattle and horses (over grazing)
Western Black Rhinocerous: Poaching

So *NONE* of them went extinct due to global warming. And of the 8 given, only 5 are definitely in the last 20 years.

-- Carl

P.S. Please name one species, just one species, any type of plant or animal, that has definitely gone extinct due to global warming.