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To: slowmo who wrote (10729)6/4/2014 9:58:31 AM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 16547
 
The Accelerating Spread of Terrorism

Since 2010, there has been a 58% increase in the number of jihadist groups world-wide.
online.wsj.com

By SETH G. JONES
June 3, 2014 7:24 p.m. ET

President Obama's decision to withdraw troops from Afghanistan by 2016 is a risky step and may embolden Islamic extremists. So could the release of five high-level prisoners from Guantanamo Bay in a swap with the Taliban to win the freedom of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.

The number of al Qaeda and other jihadist groups and fighters are growing, not shrinking. U.S. disengagement—or even risking the return of terrorists to the field by freeing them from detention—is not the answer to the threat they pose. Instead, U.S. strategy should be revamped, prioritizing American interests and developing a more effective, light-footprint campaign.

According to new data in a RAND report I have written, from 2010 to 2013 the number of jihadist groups world-wide has grown by 58%, to 49 from 31; the number of jihadist fighters has doubled to a high estimate of 100,000; and the number of attacks by al Qaeda affiliates has increased to roughly 1,000 from 392. The most significant terrorism threat to the United States comes from groups operating in Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Syria. Moner Mohammad Abusalha, an American who was a member of the al Qaeda affiliate organization al-Nusra, blew himself up in Syria on March 29.

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U.S. troops at the site of a car-bomb terrorist attack in Kabul, Feb. 10. Reuters

Today the U.S. faces complex, significant threats beyond jihadi terrorism. Russia has invaded Ukraine and threatens America's NATO allies. China is flexing its military, economic and cyber muscles in East Asia. Iran remains dedicated to developing a nuclear-weapons capability. North Korea, which already has nuclear weapons, is highly unstable.

Still, these nations are not to our knowledge actively plotting attacks against the American homeland. A handful of terrorist groups, however, remain dedicated to attacking the U.S. at home and overseas.

Some of these groups have an interest and ability to strike the U.S. homeland. They are a top priority, and include al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula based in Yemen, and the core al Qaeda along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. There are also individuals like the Tsarnaev brothers, the Boston Marathon bombers, who read al Qaeda propaganda and used sources, such as al Qaeda's Inspire magazine, to build their bombs. The growing number of radicalized Americans fighting against the Assad regime has also raised the threat from Syria.

Some analysts and policy makers have played down the threat from al Qaeda in Pakistan and Afghanistan, which has been weakened because of persistent U.S. pressure. But its leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri, remains committed to striking the U.S. He is flanked by a number of Americans, such as Abdullah al-Shami and Adam Gadahn, who support that goal.

Given the high-level threat posed by these groups, and the limited capacity of local governments, the U.S. should engage long-term in Yemen, Pakistan, Afghanistan and possibly Syria. The strategy should involve clandestine special operations, intelligence, diplomatic and other capabilities to target al Qaeda groups and their financial, logistical and political support networks. The U.S. should also help train, advise and assist local governments in their struggle against terrorism and to deal with its root causes, which may vary from incompetent security forces to collapsing economies.

A second category of terrorist groups—particularly in Somalia, Iraq, Libya and Nigeria—is bent on hitting U.S. and other Western targets overseas, though not necessarily in the U.S. homeland. Some of them, such as al-Shabaab in Somalia, have been on the radar screen of U.S. policy makers for years. Others, such as Boko Haram, are attracting more attention because of the growing pace of their attacks and plots against Americans overseas. In these countries the U.S. should support local governments but refrain from direct operations.

The third category includes terrorist groups with little current interest and ability to strike the U.S. or U.S. targets overseas. They include the East Turkestan Islamic Movement in China and numerous others with parochial interests across Africa, the Middle East and Asia. The U.S. should employ an offshore approach that relies on allies and local governments to counter these groups while avoiding the deployment of U.S. forces for training or other purposes. The strategy would include utilizing offshore air, naval and rapidly deployable ground forces rather than onshore combat power.

Afghanistan and Pakistan are still home to al Qaeda and allied groups, such as Lashkar-e-Taiba and the Taliban, that have killed Americans at home and overseas. Al Qaeda was born along the Afghanistan-Pakistan frontier in the late 1980s, and it will not disappear just because U.S. forces leave.

The American departure from Afghanistan will most likely be a boost for insurgent and terrorist groups dedicated to overthrowing the Kabul government, establishing an extreme Islamic emirate, and allowing al Qaeda and other groups to establish a sanctuary. As in Iraq, the withdrawal of U.S. troops does not make the terrorism problem go away. Al Qaeda and other groups used the breathing space to expand their attacks and spread to neighboring countries like Syria.

After more than a decade of war in countries like Afghanistan, it may be tempting for the U.S. to turn its attention elsewhere and scale back on counterterrorism efforts. But current trends suggest that the struggle against extremism is likely to be a generational one, much like the Cold War. Developing a long-term U.S. strategy to pursue those groups threatening the U.S. homeland and its interests overseas—including in Afghanistan and Pakistan—would be a good place to start.

Mr. Jones is associate director of the International Security and Defense Policy Center at the RAND Corp., and the author of the RAND report, "A Persistent Threat: The Evolution of al Qa'ida and Other Salafi-Jihadists," released on Wednesday



To: slowmo who wrote (10729)6/4/2014 10:00:48 AM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 16547
 
HILLARY KICKS OBAMA TO THE CURB OVER TALIBAN DEAL



To: slowmo who wrote (10729)6/4/2014 10:48:10 AM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 16547
 
The LIAR-----SUSAN RICE

1--said a youtube video caused Benghazi

2--said deserter Bergdahl "served with distinction."



To: slowmo who wrote (10729)6/4/2014 2:41:57 PM
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VIDEO: Bergdahl's release...
REPORT: Had been made to look ill...


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To: slowmo who wrote (10729)6/4/2014 2:44:17 PM
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MY SON DIED 'LOOKING FOR A TRAITOR?'



To: slowmo who wrote (10729)6/4/2014 5:59:55 PM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 16547
 
Ouch: Bergdahl’s Home Town Cancels Plans For Homecoming Celebration…


For obvious reasons.

HAILEY, Idaho, June 4 (Reuters) – The hometown of U.S. Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl has canceled a rally planned for later this month celebrating his release from five years of Taliban captivity, a municipal official told Reuters on Wednesday, amid allegations that he was a deserter.
Heather Dawson, the city administrator of Hailey, Idaho, said town officials called off the June 28 event at the request of organizers because the town “will be unable to safely manage the number of people expected.”
The decision came as the small mountain community was coming under mounting pressure to cancel the rally amid rising anger over claims by some of Bergdahl’s former Army comrades that he had deliberately abandoned his post in Afghanistan.
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To: slowmo who wrote (10729)6/4/2014 7:48:05 PM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 16547
 
traitor and enemy collaborator Bowe Bergdahl.



To: slowmo who wrote (10729)6/5/2014 11:14:50 AM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 16547
 
Fraud and military poseur John Kerry inflated his résumé and to this day has never released his military records.



To: slowmo who wrote (10729)6/5/2014 11:28:31 AM
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What ‘swift boating’ really means to Democrats is the use of facts against their phony narratives.



To: slowmo who wrote (10729)6/7/2014 11:48:52 AM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 16547
 
American Nazi gives Hitler Salute from Rose Garden

By James Lewis
No, it didn’t happen exactly that way this week. But hippie jihadist Bob Bergdahl got his chance to stage a classic agitprop stunt (“spontaneously,” of course), by twice reciting the jihadist credo in Arabic as a public signal of surrender to the Haqqani terror network in Afghanistan --- a bunch of evil killers who rival the Taliban in their militant hatred for the United States.

And Obama just gave our American jihadist a little smile. But what does Obama know? He’s just a passenger on this cruise ship to hell.

The Hitler salute meant something so cruel and dangerous that Americans still get it today. Heil Hitler! is an unambigous salute to evil. But half of America -- including our deeply corrupt media -- are committed to cover up the meaning of Bergdahl’s symbolic surrender to the most dangerous war theology in the world, in the middle of the Jihad War, in front of the world’s cameras in the Rose Garden.

So Bergdahl with his terrorist chic beard chanted “Heil Hitler! Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer!” And the American media said nothing.

When the black Al Qaida flag was shown on the major front pages, flying over the U.S. Embassy in Cairo on 9/11/12, while our ambassador in Libya was being burned to death, the media were silent as the grave. They knew what that black flag meant on the eleventh anniversary of 9/11/01, in Cairo and Tunisia and Benghazi. Just as a billion Muslims knew it instantly. But hey, it was six weeks before the second Obama election, and Obama’s cronies who own the media wanted another four years of easy pickin’s at the United States treasury. So they said nothing.

Today the corporate media are still covering up their complicity in Obama’s worse-than-Watergate criminality. Former SecState Hillary is still denying her own betrayals in Benghazi, sacrificing our people to protect the personal careers of big Democrats with a lifelong history of anti-American sabotage.

No wonder our former allies are enraged at us today. No wonder Putin and the Iranians are drunk with laughter. No wonder the Taliban are celebrating the coming Muslim Dark Ages, now visibly beginning to descend again over Afghanistan.

We can now see Obama’s version of the Knockout Game against our allies, always favoring our deadliest self-proclaimed enemies. Here’s the game:

First, Obama says nice things about defending our allies, like endlessly repeating the conscious lie that “Iran will never possess weapons of mass destruction.”

Then he stabs our allies in the back, and does a victory lap, applauded by the bloody-handed mullahs, the Taliban, the Muslim Brotherhood, Al Nusra in Syria, the whole gangland world of theological criminals.

Repeat that pattern of “flattery and betrayal” over and over again, and you have BHO’s foreign policy from the beginning.

Here is a partial list of former allies who now hate us, knowing how Obama betrayed them.

1. Egypt

2. Israel

3. Saudi Arabia

4. Afghanistan

5. Libya and Syria

6. Ukraine and its neighbors

7. Poland (as Lech Walesa said last week)

8. Japan --- which just lost vast seabed minerals to China, while the U.S. did nothing.

9. Philippines - ditto

10. South Korea - ditto

236 years of American idealism, values and traditions, as enshrined in the U.S. Constitution and Declaration of

Independence, backed by hundreds of thousands of American military dead in cemeteries from Normandy to Hawaii.

In Europe the anti-EU parties made major election gains last week. The French National Front is desperately trying to clean up its Nazi-linked history, and Marine le Pen is seriously discussing making a French alliance with Russia. France is now selling two modern aircraft carriers to Russia, because Putin may be a thug, but he is more reliable than the United States under Obama.

Obama has trashed our moral standing among the world’s nations. Putin snatched the Crimea, and is now sabotaging Eastern Ukraine. But Obama backstabbed Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak, who kept four decades of peace with Israel, and contemptuously destroyed Muammar Gadaffi, thereby triggering a full-scale civil war in Libya with unnumbered casualties. When some intrepid reporter asked Obama if he shouldn’t ask Congress for authorization to go to war with Libya, as required by law, he merely smirked. Laws don’t apply to Obama. Last month Putin asked, “Who is he to judge me?” Obama’s war-made body count is at least as high as Putin’s. They are both irresponsible narcissists who value their own glory above the lives of innocent human beings.

Americans in general have trouble understanding who the worst jihad warriors really are, even a decade after 9/11/01. Our voters are still deluded, with the full-throated collusion of our oil-bought corporate media. But there’s a simple way to explain it. Whenever some jihadist killer yells “Allahu Akhbar!” tell you friends it means “Heil Hitler!” When they recite the jihadist credo at the Rose Garden, as hippie terrorist chic dude Bergdahl did this week, tell them he shouted ‘Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer!” Because the American people are still sound asleep to the present danger, and the Nazis are the only thing they still remember.

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To: slowmo who wrote (10729)6/7/2014 4:56:03 PM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 16547
 
Questions loom over Susan Rice's credibility
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The Hill ^ | 6/07/14 | Alexander Bolton


National Security Adviser Susan Rice’s comments that Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl served with "honor and distinction" has amplified GOP criticism of President Obama's prisoner swap and undermined Rice’s credibility on Capitol Hill.

Independent experts have cast doubt on Rice’s judgment, given questions about whether Bergdahl was captured by the Taliban after deserting his post in Afghanistan. Even allies of the White House are suggesting she stay off the Sunday talk shows.

“When I saw her on TV making that honor and distinction comment it just seems so phony to me,” said Andrew J. Bacevich, a professor of history and international relations at Boston University.

“I think she doesn’t think seriously about the content of the words and it gets her in trouble and it embarrasses the president.

“It’s a problem if you have people who say things that end up attracting such adverse attention,” he added.

Rice is under fire for touting Bergdahl’s military record, after his former platoon mates accused him of deserting his post and endangering the lives of his comrades.

She doubled down on her statement Friday by insisting that Bergdahl deserved praise for volunteering to serve in a dangerous conflict.

“Let's remember this is a young man who volunteered to serve his country. He was taken as a prisoner of war,” she said in a CNN interview.

Patrick Ventrell, Rice’s spokesman, said “she stands by what she said in this instance and stands by her service.”

But even Obama’s allies say Rice should lay low for a while to avoid attracting more flak on Capitol Hill and elsewhere in Washington.

“First she’s given incomplete talking points about Benghazi, then she’s dispatched to say on the talk shows that Bergdahl served with ‘honor and distinction.’ If I were Rice, I’d start taking Sundays off,” wrote Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson.

Robinson’s unsolicited advice to Rice meshes with what her fiercest critics on Capitol Hill are saying.

“My recommendation is that from now on Susan Rice stay home with her family and not go on any of the Sunday talk shows,” said Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.).

\“Who told Susan Rice he served with honor and distinction? Where does she get all this stuff? Who told her that the consulate in Benghazi was strongly and significantly secured when it was a death trap?” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.).

Republicans still resent Rice for her claim that the 2012 attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya, erupted spontaneously from an unruly crowd protesting an inflammatory film that mocked Islam.

McCain and Graham have accused Rice of a political cover-up to protect Obama from criticism for not adequately defending U.S. personnel in Libya on the 11th-year anniversary of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Rice’s tenuous relationships with key figures on Capitol Hill has made it more difficult to sell the decision to release five senior Taliban commanders from Guantanamo Bay in exchange for Bergdahl.



Deputy National Security Adviser Tony Blinken has taken the lead in apologizing to Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) for not giving her a personal heads-up on the swap and briefing senators at a classified meeting Wednesday.

Lingering GOP suspicion of a Benghazi cover-up has spurred Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) to set up a select committee to investigate the Benghazi attacks and calls for a similar panel in the Senate.

Danielle Pletka, vice president of foreign and defense policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute, said Rice has become viewed as an adviser often deployed to handle the administration’s political dirty work.

“Susan Rice is like a ghost. We hardly see anything of her and they seem to trot her out to tell convenient untruths,” Pletka said. “I’m not sure it’s whether she doesn’t know what the truth is, she’s not interested it in telling it or she’s just a patsy for people who make decisions in the administration.”

Rice on Friday pushed back against criticisms that she plays fast and loose with the facts on Sunday talk shows.

“I'm up front with the American people. And I always do my best on behalf of my country and I do my best [with] the facts as we know them,” Rice told CNN.

“In the case of Bowe Bergdahl, for me to condemn him without any opportunity for him to have the chance to tell his side of the story, without any due process that we accord any American, that would be inherently unfair,” she said.

Tommy Vietor, a former spokesman for the National Security Council, told BuzzFeed earlier in the week that the White House expected a backlash against the prisoner exchange that freed Bergdahl and wanted the public to reflect on Bergdahl’s service and years of captivity before the partisan sniping began.

Rice defends her Benghazi statements by arguing that she provided the best available information when she went on the morning talk shows.

“Parts of it turned out to be wrong. I regret that the information I was provided was wrong and that I delivered to the American people. That doesn't make me a liar,” she said.

O’Hanlon said Rice’s statement on Bergdahl’s service is “one you can challenge on a number of levels.”

“Some of the concerns are very valid,” he added.



To: slowmo who wrote (10729)6/9/2014 12:05:54 AM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 16547
 
Colorado baker who won't make gay wedding cakes ordered to sensitivity training
Cain TV.com ^ | 6/5/2014 | Dan Calabrese
Posted on 6/8/2014, 8:52:04 PM by Beave Meister

"They are turning people of faith into religious refugees."

Colorado bakery owner Jack Phillips never sought out a gay person to discrminate against, nor to harm in any way. He has no desire to do so.

But because he serves Jesus Christ above all else, Phillips was not about to be forced into participation in celebrating the "marriage" of two gay men. So when they entered his store to place an order for a wedding cake, he simply told them they would have to find a different bakery.

We've told you this story before, and it's now reached exactly the point many people feared it would all along. Phillips is being ordered by the State of Colorado not only to undergo sensitivity training, but to enact new policies for him and his staff, and to file quarterly reports with the state that prove he has not turned away any business from homosexuals.

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You cant impose this crap on people.....if Phillips doesn't want to do business with gay people that's his right. He shouldn't be forced to nor be forced to attend this BS class....

1 posted on 6/8/2014, 8:52:04 PM by Beave Meister
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To: Beave Meister
There’s only one appropriate response to the State of Colorado in this case. And its not a very Christian one.



2 posted on 6/8/2014, 8:55:18 PM by skeeter
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To: Beave Meister
"Sensitivity Training" = Commie Style Reeducation Camp.


3 posted on 6/8/2014, 8:55:38 PM by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Beave Meister
Sensitivity training? What happens if he refuses or “fails” the course.



4 posted on 6/8/2014, 8:55:40 PM by allendale
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To: Beave Meister
Re-education camps. How very Soviet...



5 posted on 6/8/2014, 8:55:41 PM by null and void (Fascists never think they're fascists. They just think everybody should obey them.)
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To: Beave Meister
The punishment misses the point badly. (Deliberately?) The business wasn’t refusing to serve homosexuals. It was refusing to bake a same-sex “wedding” cake.



6 posted on 6/8/2014, 8:56:02 PM by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Beave Meister


7 posted on 6/8/2014, 8:57:31 PM by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: Beave Meister
He should tell the State of Colorado to take their so-called sensitivity training and shove it up their poop chutes.



8 posted on 6/8/2014, 8:57:33 PM by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: Beave Meister
Re-education Camp"We have ways of dealing with people like you...

9 posted on 6/8/2014, 8:59:41 PM by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: skeeter
Too put it as politely as possible, IMO.......FUNGU!!!!!!!!



10 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:02:10 PM by Viking2002 (Liberals - destroyers of both men and civilizations. The Fourth Turning Cometh.)
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To: Beave Meister
I would tell the judge to take his sensitive little A** and FOAD!



11 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:03:08 PM by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
That sentiment is sorta at the crux of this whole tragedy, ain’t it though? LOL



12 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:03:50 PM by Viking2002 (Liberals - destroyers of both men and civilizations. The Fourth Turning Cometh.)
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To: Beave Meister
Tax exemption for Christian churches is about to end. All it takes now is on Federal judge. They will claim they will not "subsidize hatred and persecution of peoples (homosexual) Civil Rights" - and that is all she wrote.



If you all don't see this coming, you are fools.

13 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:04:04 PM by SkyPilot
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To: Beave Meister
Tell'm to go screw themselves.... .... But wasn't that their goal at the start ???

14 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:04:04 PM by ptsal (Repubicans swallowing more kool-aide from Rove & Kristol)
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To: Genoa
It’s hard for me to believe this particular bakery was visited by these 2 at random.

It seems his religious beliefs must have been common knowledge around town since he also refused to bake Halloween cookies



15 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:04:20 PM by digger48
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
No kidding!
Looks like I’ll have to return to his shop and buy some MORE sweet goodies from him.



16 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:04:39 PM by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: SkyPilot
bingo



17 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:04:58 PM by digger48
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To: Beave Meister
And if that doesn’t work they’ll have to use more “convincing” methods.



18 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:06:42 PM by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: skeeter
Sodom and Gomorrah was governed by pagan perverts. All kinds of perversion imaginable not just this gay stuff. This is what we are headed for. We have a good example right here with this baker with gay degenerates calling the shots along with their leftist allies

____And don’t forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion._______



19 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:07:14 PM by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: skeeter
Bake them a cake and season it with ex-lax. That should get the wedding night off with a running start.

20 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:07:38 PM by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Beave Meister
The homosexuals are no longer content to live their lives, they have to FORCE their perversion on everyone else.



21 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:08:20 PM by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Beave Meister
Disgusting but not surprising..welcome to Obama’s fag America..where homos have more rights than anyone else..today they are having a “pride” parade in West Hollywood, 400,000 fruitcakes are expected..the left is doing everything possible to destroy the American way of life that is their agenda



22 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:08:31 PM by Sarah Barracuda
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To: oldbrowser
or at least a runny start



23 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:08:39 PM by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Beave Meister
I’ve been at two Fortune 500 companies now and both had sensitivity training camps. One HR guy slipped up and called it reeducation. One company had a died-in-the-wool communist from Latin America heading up the program. And, HR could “sentence” you to attend.



24 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:09:41 PM by Gen.Blather
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To: Beave Meister
come get me.

and bring back up



25 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:10:25 PM by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Beave Meister
This is about as crazy as it gets.



26 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:11:10 PM by berdie
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To: Beave Meister
You cant impose this crap on people...
= = = = = = = = = = = = =

Apparently ‘they’ can.
They have been and they will continue to do so.

What did ‘you’ think the forcing of people renting houses or rooms to ANYONE, whether they wanted to or not, the forcing smokers out of bars, restaurants, stadiums etc; would lead to?

Then add in the countless experiments that supposedly were started helping to help one class of people and ended up punishing another, sort of a reverse of what MAY or MAY NOT have been going on.
It definitely is ‘going on’ now with the full backing of the Federal Government.



27 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:14:52 PM by xrmusn ((6/98)"Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. (G Marx))".)
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To: Beave Meister
And what happens if he does not attend re-education indoctrination?



28 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:15:28 PM by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
no longer content to live their lives

They know they're sick, and they have a need to get validation from everyone else, a need that can never be satisfied. Guilt is a powerful motivator.


29 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:17:18 PM by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: Beave Meister
How IN HELL can the state of Colorado “order” any free citizen to “undergo” ANYTHING?

Ignore the stupid SOBs. They got nuthin’



30 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:17:28 PM by Walrus (I love the America that used to be ---I hate the America that now IS!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
where homos have more rights than anyone else..today they are having a “pride” parade in West Hollywood,
= = = = = = = = = = = = =
Yesterdays ‘parade’ in DC was highlighted on last nights news and one of the things the ‘reporters’ made a big point of was the insertion of a US Military Honor Guard and - in the words of the ‘reader’ “RIGHT THERE ALONGSIDE THE GAY PRIDE FLAG”.



31 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:19:17 PM by xrmusn ((6/98)"Those are my principles. If you don't like them, I have others. (G Marx))".)
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To: Beave Meister
Next step is public branding from libs who preach diversity and tolerance.



32 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:21:29 PM by bgill
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Thrown to the lions will be next.



33 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:23:47 PM by Argus
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To: Beave Meister
Parody News… Couple Avoids Jail: Will Keep Record Store Open by Judith Schumann Weizner Back Issues of Heterodoxy
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( April/May 2000)



Today, Ernest and Sylvia Musikant are breathing easy for the first time in many months , having won an eleventh-hour reprieve of the prison sentence they were to begin serving this morning for a violation of the Racial Equity in Employment Act.

The couple, whose classical record store, We’ll Get Bach To You, has been a fixture on Manhattan’s West Side since 1968, had been ordered to report to the Federal Race and Hate Crimes Correctional Facility on Ward’s Island to begin their fourteen-year term, but last-minute negotiations with former employee Harris Holloway led Holloway to drop his complaint in exchange for certain concessions.

Holloway, also known as Akimbo Ali, had charged the Musikants with promoting cultural stereotypes by giving him menial work to do while allowing other employees to sell records.

The Musikants hired Holloway in 1998 to do general maintenance and cleaning. As far as they knew he was satisfied with their treatment of him, but during his hearing before the Racial Equity in Employment Commission (REEC), it developed that Holloway had told his therapist that he felt his self-esteem seriously compromised by having to dust the displays in the presence of customers and the sales force.

At first, this revelation surprised the Musikants, but subsequently they recalled that the young man, a high school drop-out with no apparent interest in classical music, had once requested an opportunity to test his salesmanship skills. They agreed to consider him, but said he would have to pass the same test taken by all other employees.

When he took the test he was unable to name a single classical artist. (Because all prospective salespeople had to demonstrate a knowledge of artists and recordings by scoring at least 80 percent on a written test, most of the sales staff were conservatory students or graduates.) Since Holloway seemed so intent upon improving himself, the Musikants offered him one paid afternoon off each week for the purpose of studying and told him he could re-take the test at any time.

After several months, he repeated the test, scoring 23 percent. The Musikants agreed that this was a significant improvement and encouraged him to keep studying, but reminded him that all sales personnel had to know 80 percent of the material.

During this time, We’ll Get Bach To You became involved in a controversy concerning its display window. The store had been decorated for Christmas and Chanukah, and prominent displays of recordings associated with the season had been arranged. When a neighborhood resident pointed out that the display took no notice of Kwanzaa, the Musikants explained that as yet there was no classical Kwanzaa music, and that the window had been planned with the idea of increasing seasonal sales of existing inventory.

This did not satisfy the neighbor, who filed a charge of cultural abrogation against them. Wishing to put an end to the matter as quickly as possible, the Musikants added a Kwanzaa display to the window and the charge was withdrawn. But the next day they received a directive from the Federal Dogma Tolerance Enforcement Agency (FDTEA) ordering the store closed immediately pending resolution of a complaint filed by the Upper West Side Alliance for Freedom from Religion, which protested the prominent placement of Bach’s Christmas Cantata in the show window.

Eager to reopen as quickly as possible at this most lucrative time of the year, the Musikants immediately moved the Christmas Cantata inside to a place where it could not be seen from the street, replaced it with a recording of the Brandenburg Concertos, and called the FDTEA to send a compliance monitor.

When the monitor saw the display, he commended them for having carried out the agenc y’s orders so quickly, and issued a certificate of compliance. The grateful Musikants, having lost only two days’ sales, re-opened the store, and, to entice shoppers, offered two recordings for the price of one. For a while it seemed they might be able to recoup their losses, but two days later, the FDTEA compliance monitor returned, citing a second complaint by the Upper West Side Alliance for Freedom from Religion, which claimed that while the Musikants appeared to have complied with the FDTEA directive, they actually persisted in violating their members’ right to freedom from religion, since everyone knew that Bach had been a highly religious composer.

Desperate to keep the store open, the Musikants offered to replace the Brandenburg concertos immediately with any recording of the compliance monitor’s choice. He agreed and, after an exhaustive perusal of their inventory, advised them that Vivaldi’s Four Seasons would probably be inoffensive. The Four Seasons replaced the Concertos in the show window and a second certificate was issued on the spot.

Three days later, however, the Musikants received another summons from the FDTEA ordering them to a hearing before an agency adjudicator to determine whether, at the time they consented to the replacement of the Concertos with the Four Seasons , they had been aware that Vivaldi was a priest. Since the summons was not accompanied by an order to close, they hastily removed the Four Seasons from the display and replaced it with The Rite of Spring.

The Musikants managed to break even for December despite the two-day closing. At the hearing they told the adjudicator that they had asked the agency’s own compliance monitor to choose the replacement for the Concertos to prevent them from inadvertently contravening the agency’s wishes, and insisted that they had not known Vivaldi was a priest. However, their college transcripts revealed that both had received nearly perfect scores in music history, and when an inventory audit revealed that the fact of the composer’s priesthood was disclosed in the liner notes of one recording of a Vivaldi concerto, they were threatened with additional charges of obstructing the mission of a federal agency if they could not prove their ignorance.

The Musikants explained that on the day Vivaldi was discussed in music history they had become engaged and had cut class to celebrate. They also insisted that they would never read the liner notes of any recording sold in the store, as that would involve opening the wrapper. The FDTEA adjudicator promised a ruling within the month, and the Musikants went back to work. But before the decision came down they found themselves facing yet another threat.

The inventory audit carried out during the hearing had uncovered the fact that while the store’s inventory did include recordings by minority artists, 99.96 percent of the composers represented were of European background. Bound by the Uniform Federal Standards in Diversity Act, the FDTEA had shared its findings with the Federal Diversity Management Board (FDMB), which now demanded an exact accounting of the racial background of the artists represented in the store’s inventory. Because the order included a determination of the racial make-up of the various orchestras and chamber music groups whose recordings they sold, the Musikants had to hire a reference consultant and a mathematician.

When the audit proved that the racial character of the inventory was not representative of the country as a whole, the Musikants requested a hearing before an FDMB examiner. They reminded the examiner that We’ll Get Bach To You was a classical music store, specializing in music by classical composers, mostly dead white European males, although there were works by females as well, but that so far there was not much classical music by minority composers. They explained that they made it a point to showcase recordings by minority performers, and that whenever there were compositions by minority composers they promoted them as well.

The examiner said that while he understood the state of classical music in the United States, he had to enforce the standards mandated by the Uniform Federal Standards in Diversity Act, and gave them the choice of endowing a three million dollar fund for the training of classical composers from the inner city, or expanding their inventory to include music by minority composers and artists, whether or not it could be deemed “classical”. He reminded them that failure to comply would subject them to immediate forfeiture of the business and charges of cultural chauvinism.

Unable to endow a fund, the Musikants have agreed to set up a rap music section with Harris Holloway as its manager, in exchange for dismissal of all charges of cultural stereotyping against them. Lawyers for REEC have consented to allow Hollway to drop his complaint, even though making him manager of the rap section could open the door for a second charge of furthering a cultural stereotype if he later requests a position in the classical music section and does not get it. The Musikants also agree to continue Holloway’s paid afternoon off to further his classical studies.

While the FDTEA’s ruling on the obstruction charge is expected later this month, experts believe that it may be put on hold pending the results of the Musikants’s next three annual FDMB reviews.

In an interview today on New York’s Channel 99, Mr. Musikant, co-founder of New Yorkers for Sufficient Government, was asked whether his recent travails had undermined his confidence in the system.

“On the contrary,” he said. “I think this is a perfect example of what happens when good ideas mesh—we’ll have a job in management for Harris, which he wants, and my wife and I will not go to jail, which we want. We’ve been advised that we’ll have to change the name of the store to reflect its new diversity, so we’ve been fooling around with a few possibilities. What do you think of We’ll Get Rap Bach To You?”

34 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:23:59 PM by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: Beave Meister
In the modern age, we still throw Christians to the lions — we just do it a little differently.

We try to be subtle. But we’re doing it.



35 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:27:37 PM by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" youtube.com
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To: CharlesOConnell
too realistic



36 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:28:21 PM by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Walrus
Ignore the stupid SOBs. They got nuthin’


Exactly!



37 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:29:31 PM by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Beave Meister
One thing this guy should not have done and that is wear his religion on his sleeve. That is asking for trouble. Businesses turn away business all the time and he could have also. This mess is of his own doing.



38 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:32:01 PM by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Savage Beast
This sounds a lot like what happened in Germany in the 30s and 40s. I wonder if the Christians will let themselves be taken to the camps. I know a lot of us Jews will never be taken again.



39 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:32:05 PM by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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To: oldbrowser
Indeed.



40 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:36:00 PM by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Genoa
The business wasn’t refusing to serve homosexuals. It was refusing to bake a same-sex “wedding” cake. VERY VERY important distinction!!!!

While I think any business should have the right to refuse service to anyone, I think making them a cake is really the wiser thing. BUT, making political statement by making a pro gay cake? That's something totally different.

41 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:38:13 PM by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladlyÂ…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: Beave Meister
The deviants pushing all this crap are the ones who need sensitivity training. But of course they have no concern if their behavior is offensive to the rest of the world.



42 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:38:36 PM by stboz
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To: Beave Meister
“No.”



43 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:39:38 PM by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: SkyPilot
Yup, I think we’ll see it in CA in 5 years, and the rest of USA churches in 10. It’ll be interesting how churches who believe against this but hate making controversial comments (like Rick Warren) will respond.



44 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:40:19 PM by MNDude
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To: Beave Meister
This is open oppressions of Christians, and our spineless Republican leaders do and say nothing.



45 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:42:23 PM by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: Beave Meister
Here’s what’s coming: Business owners will be required to swear that they will serve homosexuals as a requirement for getting a business license.



46 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:43:10 PM by clintonh8r (Can Juan Williams possibly be that stupid?)
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To: Beave Meister
This is such an abuse of power. Power that was not given by legislative process but by regulatory fiat. This is totally unacceptable and a violation of his religious rights.



47 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:46:54 PM by lastchance ("Nisi credideritis, non intelligetis" St. Augustine)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
At some point, we will have to fight a real fight to be allowed to exercise religious beliefs and still keep employment.

But that should be a fight we can win, because in the end, the right to be free to practice religion is meaningless if the government can prevent you from earning a living because of your religion.

On the other hand, that is one of the end times signs, needing the mark to buy or sell. I wish someone would bring that up to one of these judges. I’m not brave enough, but it would be cool for someone to walk in with a 666 on their forehead asking if that would satisfy the judge.



48 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:47:11 PM by CharlesWayneCT
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To: oldbrowser
Just bake everyone their own cupcake.

[click at your own risk and don’t say you weren’t warned]

anorak.co.uk



49 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:50:57 PM by Salamander (He ain't heavy, he's my Boa.)
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To: dennisw
Pedophiles are coming up to bat, next.



50 posted on 6/8/2014, 9:51:43 PM by Salamander (He ain't heavy, he's my Boa.)
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To: slowmo who wrote (10729)6/10/2014 12:32:12 PM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 16547
 
Reuters poll: Obama approval at 38/55, two-thirds worry about "Dangerous" detainee swap precedent



To: slowmo who wrote (10729)6/10/2014 3:29:28 PM
From: joseffy  Respond to of 16547
 
Now the White House says Hagel made final call on Bergdahl as criticism of Obama over prisoner swap mounts

  • Congress learned on Monday that Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel gave final approval for the prisoner exchange that freed Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl

  • Last week, Hagel said the swap was a unanimous decision made by senior officials

  • Hagel is expected to defend the prisoner exchange on Wednesday in an appearance before the House Armed Services Committee


    • By Zoe Szathmary , 10 June 2014



    FInal approval for the prisoner exchange that freed Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl was made by Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel, members of Congress learned on Monday from administration officials.

    'They indicated (it was) Secretary Hagel (who made the final call),' Rep. Buck McKeon (R-CA) said after a classified briefing, ABC points out.

    'It was the president of the United States that came out (in the Rose Garden) with the Bergdahls and took all the credit and now that there’s been a little pushback he’s moving away from it and it’s Secretary Hagel?'

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    Last week, Hagel said the swap was a unanimous decision when speaking to the BBC.

    'It was the Secretary of Defense, Secretary of State, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Director of National Intelligence, Attorney General,' he said.

    'It was our judgement based on the information that we had that his life, his health were in peril,' Hagel also told the channel in defense of not giving Congress 30 days' notice of the plan.

    'Can you imagine if we would have waited or taken the chance of leaks over a 30-day period?' Hagel said.

    Different story: Hagel earlier said the decision was made unanimously

    Congress was upset to learn on Monday that 80 to 90 people in the Obama administration knew of the exchange - but that no Republicans or Democrats in the House were told.

    'It strikes me as unfortunate that they could have 80 to 90 people in the administration aware of what was happening and not be able to trust a single Republican or Democrat in the House or the Senate,' Rep. Greg Walden (R-OR), said, Reuters points out.

    ''There was a sense of anger that members of Congress didn’t know about this,' Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) said to reporters after the briefing, ABC notes. 'Obviously, if there is secure information — members of Congress knew about the capture of Osama bin Laden — and yet 80 to 90 staff in the White House knew about this.'

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    : dailymail.co.uk



    To: slowmo who wrote (10729)6/13/2014 12:45:57 AM
    From: joseffy  Respond to of 16547
     
    Obama has presided over the destruction of American influence in the Middle East, the hollowing out of the US economy, the perversion of American intelligence assets and the maltreatment of American veterans.


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