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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (53519)	6/6/2014 7:55:56 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86355

HI Wharf Rat; Re: "What I want to see is the effects on the third generation. Gives us a period of time to see whether there are genetic changes behind this diet. 3 month studies don't show us much. It's like feeding kids GMOs until they are 10, and determining they are safe."; What? You're not going to defend your research that had to be retracted? LOL!!! Did you know that the wikipedia article on GMO corn includes the sentence: "Broad scientific consensus holds that food derived from GM crops poses no greater risk to human health than conventional food?" As usual, you deal in fear, baseless fear rooted in ignorance. Half my right wing friends believe that the soul of the leftists is stupidity, the others think it is cowardice. This was not always the case. Progressives from 100 years ago were brave men and intelligent. But let's look at your fear about the effect that GMOs will have on the 3rd generation of animals. Roundup Ready GMO corn was commercialized in 1996. By 2000, 25% of US corn was GMO. Last year it rose to 90%. If you want to feed your animals corn that is not GMO, you have to pay extra for it. Non GMO corn is more expensive; farmers wouldn't do that unless they could get extra money for it. So you already know that GMO corn has been extensively fed to US farm animals for 14 years. Before a cow has its first calf, it's called a "heifer". They get their first breeding at less than 2 years old. They give birth 8 or 9 months later. So a generation in cows is about 3 years and US farmers have already run 5 generations of cows off of GMO corn. Of course chickens have faster generations. But the story is better than this. The standard lab diet for rats is mostly corn: Laboratory Rodent Diet Description Laboratory Rodent Diet is recommended for rats, mice, hamsters and gerbils. This diet is a complete life cycle diet formulated using managed formulation delivering Constant Nutrition (c). This is paired with the selection of highest quality ingredients to assure minimal inherent biological variation in long-term studies. It is formulated for life-cycle nutrition; however, it is not designed for maximizing production in mouse breeding colonies. This product has been the standard of biomedical research for over 70 years. ... Ingredients Ground corn, dehulled soybean meal, dried beet pulp, fish meal, ground oats ... labdiet.com@labdiet/documents/web_content/mdrf/mdi4/~edisp/ducm04_028021.pdf Rats begin breeding at 3 or 4 months. US lab rats have been fed GMO corn as their primary diet for something like 40 generations. If GMO corn caused some weird effect after 3 generations, every lab in the country would have known it about 10 years ago. -- Carl P.S. If you look around, you'll find that the standard primate diet uses ground corn as the 2nd ingredient.