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To: LindyBill who wrote (557616)	6/12/2014 9:36:32 AM
From: gamesmistress	3 Recommendations Recommended By Katelew MulhollandDrive Tom Clarke Respond to of 793838

We are finally in an ideological war between personal freedom system and a State system The other factor that's screwing us up is "identity politics". Anyone could be an American but you had to leave a lot of your tribal identification back in your native land. No one wanted to see you re-create your ancient emnities here, and you and your community benefited from that. Now it's women vs. men, blacks vs whites (or Hispanics, or Koreans,) etc. The countries of the Middle East (with some exceptions) are false constructs created post WWI and now seem to be falling back into tribalism. Only dictators will restore peace there. Where is Saudi Arabia in this game anyway? What will it do when the unrest spills over to them, and/or the money runs out? Even in Western Europe there's a lot of separartist sentiment - Scots, Catalans, Basques, etc. Britain may be the first to tell Brussels to go stuff itself, I don't know. Russia's political and economic development has always been about 300 years behind the rest of Europe, and they never developed democratic institutions. There, as in the Middle East, it's who controls the money that counts.

To: LindyBill who wrote (557616)	6/12/2014 2:35:23 PM
From: skinowski	3 Recommendations Recommended By Brian Sullivan gamesmistress Tom Clarke Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793838

It was Hegel who introduced the idea that philosophy and history can be "scientific" -- like in "settled science", if you will. Marx's genius was that he was able to translate this into the language of politics -- and people like Lenin, Hitler, Mussolini - and their court "scientists" - developed it further, into practical ideologies, useful for their specific goals. Today's Statists also like the notion of "science" in human affairs -- it helps them pretend they know what the heck they are doing.