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To: funk who wrote (1813)	12/13/1997 3:51:00 PM
From: Richard Estes	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12617

Elder's book is a futures oriented book of classic indicators with a little psycology (found in most books)thrown in. I have recommended it for years as a basic book, but I don't see tradeable systems there. Certainly not for "day"traders.

To: funk who wrote (1813)	12/13/1997 4:49:00 PM
From: TFF	Respond to of 12617

AE: I disagree with Richard on this one. Trading For A Living had the single greatest impact on my DAY trading of any book I have read on the subject. The key idea of the book for me, was the psychology of the trader. Traders really are losers - you must learn to accept small losses to avoid large ones! The rest of the book is rather bland as described by Richard. Cheers!