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To: koan who wrote (252694)	6/13/2014 11:20:44 PM
From: Alex MG	Respond to of 540708

this is why the founders of this country specified 'Separation of church and state' but lately we seem to be wanting to revert back to join the idiots after all, there is as much brutal shit in the bible as there is any any religion take your pick of stupid brutal shit in the old testament... "stone your daughter to death for sex out of wedlock, ok to own slaves, etc

To: koan who wrote (252694)	6/14/2014 10:47:44 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 540708

Once, Christianity was the great religion (whatever that means), and there was fighting everywhere. Christianity has had 700 more years to work out their inter-tribal hostilities, and they were still at it as late as the 90's. (Plus, in the ME, other people covet the oil under the houses of various tribes). Religion As A Cause Of War In Ireland In my last post I argued that religion was a major cause of war. Now I want to discuss this in an Irish context. In fact the history of Ireland is basically the history of Protestants and Catholics warring among each other. There are numerous incidents where Catholics or Protestants were killed solely because of their religion. robertnielsen21.wordpress.com

To: koan who wrote (252694)	6/14/2014 3:23:55 PM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540708

Because without wide-spread democracy, brutal individuals in the middle east can rise to power and create self-serving dictatorships. These are not men of God. They can self-identify as Islamic believers all they want but they still are not men of God. They are no different from the many brutal African dictators who end up slaughtering and subjegating entire countries. Most of these individuals don't even profess to have a religious faith. All religions are man-made constructs. Any particular one may or may not reflect the mind of God. Or it might reflect parts of the mind of God and parts of what the founders themselves deemed important. Also religions evolve over time as different leaders add to or subtract from pieces of the original philosphical construct. Unfortunately, people often read about things like the Inquisition, conflicts during the Protestant Reformation, or a scandal involving a church leader and take that as evidence against the existence of God. I view this as a logical fallacy. It would be like leaving the lens cap on a camera while taking pictures of the beach. Then getting home and finding your pictures were either blurred or non-existent and deciding the ocean wasn't there.