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To: Kevin Podsiadlik who wrote (170889)6/14/2014 1:25:22 PM
From: clean86  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 213177
 
Nicely stated and the next Quarterly Report should be extremely interesting.



To: Kevin Podsiadlik who wrote (170889)6/15/2014 1:04:26 AM
From: Ryan Bartholomew  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 213177
 
That said, you don't get to be far and away the most successful corporation of the 21st century so far without doing a hell of a lot more things right than wrong, and more importantly having the things done right prove far more important than the things done wrong.
Don't forget that they're also, at least in my opinion, one of the most brilliant marketing companies. My biggest failure in evaluating them over the past year or so was my assumption that their users would start trying alternative products more readily. Despite superb alternatives being available, Apple users largely aren't trying them, and that speaks to Apple's marketing brilliance. The percentage of Apple users who are blissfully happy with what they have is mind-blowing, and whether or not they'd be more happy trying something has been largely irrelevant, as they simply aren't inclined to look around. As long as Apple can keep that up, they'll at least protect their base.
It's definitely a difficult time to be an Apple critic. Not many people have the skills to admit to past negative sentiments that were wrong, and come up with a way to carefully explain why this time is different.
Great point about how hard it is for some to admit they're wrong. Key to how hard it is to admit is how much there is to admit, and that in turn depends upon *when* someone became critical/bearish on Apple. Clearly, any bear who has touted their demise for half a decade or more must sleep in a tear-stained bed. The long-term chart looks like one side of Mt. Everest! Similarly, someone who has been bearish since earlier this year can't be thrilled either, as Apple has smartly outpaced the broader market. For someone like me who became bearish while Apple was in the 600-700 (85-100) range, it's not so bad, especially if invested elsewhere during the same period as the market roared higher. I know where I've been wrong (see my paragraph above), and understanding such failures is critical to evaluating where to go from here.

So let's get onto the business of evaluating the pros and cons of what Apple is doing and where AAPL goes from here. That's what makes this board so useful!



To: Kevin Podsiadlik who wrote (170889)6/15/2014 4:06:14 AM
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I'm not an Apple Bear.

I consider myself to be one of the most balanced people here on this forum, and I go back further than anyone on it.

Over the years I've criticized many things about Apple but I've also given Apple credit where due.

On more than one occasion I predicted things that Apple was likely to do and was roundly criticized before I was vindicated. Two notable examples:

I predicted long before it was announced that Apple would port OSX to Intel CISC chips. That was a no brainer I thought at the time but the majority on this thread at the time said no, Apple would stick with IBMs chips which had better floating point power. It seemed to me that heat problems were becoming more and more important.

I also predicted that the iPhone would have a touch screen, as I have a background in design and it seemed to me the major drawback of the smart phones at the time was screen real estate. The ONLY logical solution was a touch screen. Most of the people on that thread at that time argued that they wouldn't do it because of fingerprints and interface problems.

There were others. When Apple decided to us BSD Unix for OSX I predicted that this would lead to numerous small devices. This was before the iPod.

I've been wrong too. Didn't see the iPod coming as a way to tote around entire collections of music. Thought the iPad would be a big phone... on that one I may be partially vindicated this fall.

I still disagree that Gil Emilio was a villain. That guy did the unloved job of paring the fat and making the decision to bring back Jobs. I think he knew he would probably pay for doing the right thing. I think he deserves a lot of credit for keeping Apple afloat during the bad years.

I also see the critics of the logic behind a polycarbonate 5c as pretty brilliant, and think the critics of that decision have no friggin' idea what they are talking about.



To: Kevin Podsiadlik who wrote (170889)6/16/2014 3:40:13 PM
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>> What I'm saying is that right now it's strongly going with the odds to give Apple the benefit of almost any doubt.

The cash balance and the brand alone justify that.