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To: Doren who wrote (26)	6/22/2014 5:40:13 PM
From: Zen Dollar Round	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 157

OT For me expanding my ears into new areas is the key to long time musical enjoyment. Right now on my iPod I have The Stanley Brothers, NIN, Mechanical Music boxes, Duke Ellington, Gene Vincent, Gun Club, Sid Barret era Pink Floyd, Howlin' Wolf, Beethoven, Hovaness, Tito Puente, Beny Moré, Charlie Feathers, Humpe Humpe, Les Rita Mitsouko, Little Walter, Dandy Warhols, Joe Zawinul, Sun Ra, Herbie Hancock, Fletcher Henderson. I take back what I told you once long ago. It is actually you who has the widest ranging taste in music of anyone I'm acquainted with, not myself. Crikey, that's quite a variety! I'll try to respond to the 2nd half of your post later, when I've got a bit more time. It's an interesting theory you have there.

To: Doren who wrote (26)	6/23/2014 1:06:21 AM
From: spitsong	1 Recommendation Recommended By MGV Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 157

Doren re: music discovery The key to a good music app isn't to listen to what the record companies want. It's providing avenues to let listeners find music like the stuff they already like, and then the music like that, and then the music like THAT. It's providing easy-to-follow but not necessarily structured paths. It's reading what reviewers (Curators! DJs! Critics! Musicians!) have to say about what the music reminds them of, and then what they have to say about what THAT music reminds them of. It's to show what inspired the artists you like, and then what inspired THOSE artists. It's not formula, it's the opposite. Because musicians listen to a lot of different stuff. It inspires them across predefined genres, which often are defined by record labels, but many musicians are not happy being stuffed into any single one of them, though some can sometimes be grateful that their eclectic music can sometimes be classified into a category that has a defined audience. I've heard Randy Newman and Dave Alvin both express gratitude to certain radio programmers, both before and during the Internet age, for deciding that their music fit into a given category and playing it, because it otherwise wasn't being heard, and wouldn't be supporting the life they'd chosen to follow. But that doesn't mean they were comfortable in those pigeonholes. A good music app doesn't just let record companies dictate what listeners should listen to, or buy. It provides links that allow listeners to explore. To LEARN. Apple can build one, but hasn't built good a music exploration capability as they could, or that other companies have. I hope Apple will. They won't need Beats to tell them how, but they should listen when Beats tells them what's needed. Hopefully Beats knows. Check out Radio Paradise if you haven't already, either from iTunes or its own site You might be surprised what a great DJ can teach.

To: Doren who wrote (26)	6/23/2014 1:30:12 AM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 157

>> but this feature to me is so anti-music... the way I think about music I really hate it. Its like a snake eating its tail. I kind of feel the same way. My musical tastes are very broad, including a very large classical collection, lots of 60s-70s era rock, blues from the early days forward, and a bit of country & popular music. I wouldn't give a plug nickel for most music after the 80s (a few exceptions here & there). But I like to find new music by old performers, and you're just not going to find that through these methods. It would be nice if you could filter the selection in other ways like common, rare, ultra-rare or by date range or even country of origin. Or connect performers with other performers (e.g., like Byrds-Buffalo Springfield-Neil Young). I think if you had a system with a database that had more data about personnel on individual tracks. Of course, there probably is little demand for it considering the average radio station playlist contains a few hundred (at most) tracks.