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To: stsimon who wrote (254648)	7/1/2014 4:16:03 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541877

"There are no SS taxes paid by the employers for robots," not Rat's fault.. Message 27129142

To: stsimon who wrote (254648)	7/1/2014 4:37:12 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541877

A second problem, and a large one going forward, is the use of robots, (software and hardware), to replace human workers. There are no SS taxes paid by the employers for robots, so over time the number of workers will continue to shrink even if immigration continues. The Luddites were correct, they were just early on their timing. I think what we'll need is an entire new economic scheme. Heavy on the socialism. Or, many guillotines for the robot owners.

To: stsimon who wrote (254648)	7/1/2014 4:47:00 PM
From: Metacomet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541877

There are no SS taxes paid by the employers for robots, so over time the number of workers will continue to shrink even if immigration continues. Lotta concepts at work here There are no SS taxes paid on robots, but there will be fewer people drawing benefits downstream to compensate The trend toward a smaller workforce is usually being accommodated by increased production Given the political realities of our existing plutocracy, virtually the entire increment of production gain is being given to the plutocrats with minimal taxation...cause it ain't income, it's capital gains, to be later passed on tax free or minimally taxed as an estate It is a situation that the capitalist model cannot accommodate Any system has to work for all components, not just the owners If we are to function as society, there needs to be some serious rethinking of how the wealth will be redistributed ..the current model cannot survive much longer The chap that was talking about pitchforks has a correct read...

To: stsimon who wrote (254648)	7/1/2014 5:17:59 PM
From: Steve Lokness	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541877

<<<< There are no SS taxes paid by the employers for robots, so over time the number of workers will continue to shrink>>> This argument has been going on forever. Ever since horses replaced oxen to get the trees out of the forest. It is bogus! The jobs replaced are repetitive - but those needed to design, build and maintain them are not. Robots unlike the worker they replace have to be constantly upgraded. So the work force of course will change - but then it always has.......