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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (254830)	7/2/2014 4:21:26 PM
From: T L Comiskey	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541853

Never met a Viking/Berserker...I did not like Berserkers (or berserks) were Norse warriors who are primarily reported in the Old Norse literature to have fought in a nearly uncontrollable, trance-like fury, a characteristic which later gave rise to the English word berserk. Berserkers are attested to in numerous Old Norse sources. Most historians believe that berserkers worked themselves into a rage before battle, but some think that they might have consumed drugged foods. The Úlfhéðnar (singular Úlfheðinn), another term associated with berserkers, mentioned in the Vatnsdœla saga, Haraldskvæði and the Völsunga saga, were said to wear the pelt of a wolf when they entered battle. [1] Úlfhéðnar are sometimes described as Odin's special warriors: "[Odin’s] men went without their mailcoats and were mad as hounds or wolves, bit their shields...they slew men, but neither fire nor iron had effect upon them. This is called 'going berserk.'" [2] In addition, the helm-plate press from Torslunda depicts (below) a scene of Odin with a berserker—"a wolf skinned warrior with the apparently one-eyed dancer in the bird-horned helm, which is generally interpreted as showing a scene indicative of a relationship between berserkgang... and the god Odin [3]"—with a wolf pelt and a spear as distinguishing features. [4]

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (254830)	7/2/2014 4:42:57 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541853

The Vikings were religious. Why would we like them any better?

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (254830)	7/2/2014 5:10:38 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541853

"You are bad-mouthing the Vikings for selling oil to France?" No; I'm saying all those countries who are doing well because of secular socialistic education got there by exploiting the resources of the people who are still not doing well, but who are doing it with religiosity. "they took a few religious artifacts. Gold and silver and stuff" Who am I to judge? "Every woman is to ask her neighbor and any woman living in her house for articles of silver and gold and for clothing, which you will put on your sons and daughters. And so you will plunder the Egyptians." Exodus 3:22. Israel's healthcare system ranked fourth in world; U.S. trails behindU.S. is near bottom of list of 48 countries ranked by Bloomberg for the quality of their healthcare systems. By Ronny Linder-Ganz, Ronit Tzach and Bloomberg \| Aug. 28, 2013 haaretz.com