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Politics : Manmade Global Warming, A hoax? A Scam? or a Doomsday Cult? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Don Hurst who wrote (4090)	7/14/2014 5:30:38 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 4326

Don, where you see flat areas of land with rivers running through them, they are flat because the rivers have made them flat. The way the rivers make them flat is by eroding higher ground and flooding lower ground with silt. Flooding is and always has been part of geomorphology. There is no Greenhouse Effect required to cause floods. The amount of Global Warming coming out of The Little Ice Age has been less than 1 degree Celsius, which is not enough to cause significant extra peak rain or snow. When the Mississippi river floods by metres, the extra depth courtesy of that minuscule extra heating is insignificant. <ye olde England, how well I remember the weather being described as "tomorrow there will be periods of brightness..."> Actually, each of the last 4 summers has been excellent in Lovely London though one year there was some good quality rain, which I avoided by being elsewhere for the couple of weeks involved. If the good weather is due to Global Warming due to CO2, then I dare say the average Londoner would be pleased to have more CO2. Having the climate of the south of France move to England, with grapes growing here as during the Roman Empire, would be excellent. That would be far preferable to a return of glaciation during which time the ice sheet ended about 50 km north of London. Brrr... Mqurice

To: Don Hurst who wrote (4090)	7/14/2014 10:26:14 PM
From: weatherguru	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4326

You responded to the "weather is not climate" with a weather example. It makes no sense. Do you know about the Brunt Vaisala frequency? How does global warming decrease that?

To: Don Hurst who wrote (4090)	7/17/2014 5:38:15 AM
From: longnshort	2 Recommendations Recommended By Bill FJB Respond to of 4326

yeah never been floods in england 1950s[ edit]The Lynmouth flood of 1952 killed 34 people, more than any other British flood, it was also very destructive and destroyed over 80 buildings in the town of Lynmouth, Devon, United Kingdom.The North Sea Flood of 1953 caused over 2,000 deaths in the Dutch province of Zeeland and the about 50 in the United Kingdom (the coastlines of East Anglia and Lincolnshire were worst hit) and led to the construction of the Delta Works in the Netherlands and the Thames Barrier in London. The North Sea flood of 1962 killed almost 330 people along the coasts of southeastern England, Germany, and southern Denmark. 318 of the deaths occurred in Hamburg, Germany, and many millions of pounds' worth of damage was done. St. Mary Magdalene's flood occurred on and around the feast day of St. Mary Magdalene, 22 July 1342. Following the passage of a Genoa low the rivers Rhine, Moselle, Main, Danube, Weser, Werra, Unstrut, Elbe, Vltava and their tributaries inundated large areas. Even the river Eider north of Hamburg flooded the surrounding land. Many towns such as Cologne, Mainz, Frankfurt am Main, Würzburg, Regensburg, Passau and Vienna were seriously damaged. The affected area extended to Carinthia and northern Italy. The overall number of casualties is not known, but it is believed that alone in the Danube area 6000 people were killed.The (1st) Grote Mandrenke was a massive southwesterly Atlantic gale (see also European windstorm) which swept across England, the Netherlands, northern Germany, and Schleswig around 16 January 1362, causing at minimum 25,000 deaths.The All Saints Day Flood of 1436 ( German: Allerheiligenflut) on All Saints' Day (1 November) 1436 was a storm tide that hit the entire North Sea coast of the German Bight. In the North Frisian village of Tetenbüll alone 180 people died. Eidum on the island of Sylt was destroyed, its inhabitants left and founded the village of Westerland as a result. List on Sylt was also abandoned after the floods and rebuilt further west. Dykes burst along the river Oste and in Kehdingen. The island of Pellworm was separated from neighbouring Nordstrand and only diked again in 1550.The Burchardi Flood was a storm tide that struck the North Sea coast of North Frisia and Dithmarschen on the night between 11 and 12 October 1634. Overrunning dikes, it shattered the coastline and caused thousands of deaths (8,000 to 15,000 people drowned).The 1872 Baltic Sea flood was a storm surge that affected the Baltic Sea coast from Denmark to Pomerania on the night of 12/13 November 1872. The flood cost the lives of at least 271 people on the Baltic Sea coast; 2,850 houses were destroyed or at least badly damaged and 15,160 people left homeless as a result.