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To: i-node who wrote (795819)	7/20/2014 2:01:55 PM
From: FJB	1 Recommendation Recommended By TideGlider Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1579681

UN agency returns rockets to Hamas posted at 11:01 am on July 20, 2014 by Jazz Shaw I’ve really made an effort over the years to continue to try to find something nice to say about the United Nations, since I still believe that a properly run, responsibly directed international body could accomplish a lot of good in the world. But when you read stories like this one, it’s pretty difficult to maintain a sunny outlook. United Nations agency that last week found rockets in a Gaza school operating under its auspices has handed that weaponry over to Hamas, Israeli officials said Sunday, accusing the organization of actively helping the terrorist organization potentially attack Israeli civilians. “The rockets were passed on to the government authorities in Gaza, which is Hamas. In other words, UNRWA handed to Hamas rockets that could well be shot at Israel,” a senior Israeli official told The Times of Israel. A different senior official said UNRWA, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East, charged with overseeing humanitarian efforts in Gaza, has been suffering from “battered-wife syndrome” for years and currently “attempts to ingratiate itself with Hamas.” According to the UNRWA spokesman reached for comment, it’s apparently a long standing policy to refer matters of incidents involving unexploded ordnance which might endanger beneficiaries and staff to the local authorities. And in most cases, that’s probably a fine policy. But in this case there seem to be two glaring problems. First of all, the phrase unexploded ordinance is, I’m sure, generally used to describe cases where civilians find a bomb in a field someplace which didn’t detonate on impact or some land mines left over from a previous conflict. And in most countries, contacting the local government is probably a good first step. But these are stockpiled rockets which are waiting to be fired, not rusted out World War II shells. I don’t think these are the sorts of weapons which an “unexploded ordnance” policy was meant to cover. Second, the “local government” in most cases is, I would imagine, a neutral body looking to secure the safety of their citizens and work with such an international agency. One might suppose that any UNRWA workers who are on the ground in Gaza are familiar with Hamas and would realize that they were essentially fueling another round of the attacks which we’re all ostensibly seeking to shut down, wouldn’t they? Double Face Palm material.

To: i-node who wrote (795819)	7/20/2014 2:29:59 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1579681

You probably wont find a translation out of the journal article that is cited. And that is behind a paywall unless you know someone in college with access to JSTOR. It, however is well known in Israel. Has been for 30 years. The New Historians have used it and other documents from Israeli and British archives to expose the propaganda the Israeli government has been spreading for decades. it has been pretty rough on the Israelis. A lot of them have progressed to the bargaining stage, though.

To: i-node who wrote (795819)	7/20/2014 6:50:52 PM
From: tejek	1 Recommendation Recommended By bette Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1579681

I couldn't find a link to the actual document or a translation of it. Did you know that as the Germans imposed the Final Solution for the Jews, the Roma and the gays, the Jews in Palestine were discussing a final solution for the Palestinian Arabs? Do you know that thanks to the Israelis and their forebears, there are Palestinian refugee camps all over the ME? In one of those camps, Ariel Sharon massacred thousands of Palestinians. Did you know that Israeli terrorist groups like Haganah not only terrorized the Arabs but went after the Brits as well? That's why the Brits belatedly changed their minds about giving Israel to the Jews. Do you have any idea how many Palestinians have died at the hands of the Israelis? And now you condone the Israelis boldly taking Palestinian land and water with the support of the US. And you wonder why Hamas came into being. My God how dense can you be?