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To: combjelly who wrote (797912)7/29/2014 12:51:07 PM
From: J_F_Shepard  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578446
 
Let's see if less has a response.......nice find.



To: combjelly who wrote (797912)7/30/2014 11:39:40 AM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578446
 
Typical comment from the uninformed and chronically wrong sneering left wing extremist known as combjelly. Shepard posted a comment, which I responded to with a challenge to him personally. He failed miserably, but feel to engage if you think you can do any better. I seriously doubt it.

Shepard: "but I do get frustrated trying have an exchange of ideas with people who can't or are afraid to explain their positions... "

Me:
So explain to me how life in prison for guys like Ted Bundy represents a just, fair, and resolute outcome.

Context from an article:


Retire at 65, a life of honest work behind you, and the Canada Pension Plan will fork out a maximum of $11,840.04 annually to supposedly keep you fed, clothed and sheltered.

Land a bed in jail via rape, murder or any other heinous criminal act, and you’re suddenly worth $113,974 a year to the federal government — nearly ten times as much.

Free health care, recreation, dental, entertainment, education, libraries and so forth: the amenities for those who surrender their freedom is well documented and very expensive.

calgarysun.com

"In the 1970s, Ted Bundy had a bright future in the Washington State Republican Party; instead, he became one of the most famous serial killers and necrophiliacs in U.S. history. He often deceived his victims, all women, into thinking that he was injured and in need of help before attacking them. In 1976, he was arrested for an attempted kidnapping, but while acting as his own lawyer, he escaped. He migrated to Florida, where he killed two women in a Florida State University sorority house and 12-year-old Kimberly Diane Leach. He was convicted of those murders and, while on death row in 1989, he confessed to 50 other murders. The true total remains unknown."



My position on Heinous crime is this: We have only two dispositions that have been forwarded. Each comes with apparent flaws, at least from a secular view, which is all we have. Each is an ultimate penalty resulting in death in some assigned way (in prison at the end of natural life, or at a scheduled time).

Capital punishment comes with two serious over riding concerns, which eliminates it as a just consequence for heinous crime, at least under the secular restriction. 1) The justice system has not be proven infallible at determining guilt. 2) Allowing the state to take the life of a citizen, violates the natural right to life premise of our constitution.

The Life in Prison option is far more appealing to most people as an alternative, even though it also has flaws preventing it from meeting the standard of justice we expect. If you disagree, then how does it actually meet the standards of the justice system, which is to provide justice for all: the criminal, victims, individuals experiencing loss, and society at large?