To: combjelly who wrote (798784 ) 8/1/2014 7:14:36 PM From: i-node 1 RecommendationRecommended By one_less
Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1578706 >> One more piece? There isn't any evidence. There is overwhelming evidence of Lerner's involvement, starting with her hiding behind the 5th Amendment, which she would be doing only if she were concerned about a criminal prosecution. The evidence of White House involvement exists, but "plausible deniability" has been maintained and they'll probably never get to Obama. There is no question the targeting occurred, and the inexplicable loss of hard drives and enterprise level backups adds to the circumstantial case against Lerner. The emails that WERE received further suggest it was something in her history, when she flippantly suggested a referral to examinations for Chuck Grassley. This is important, because she has no business AT ALL suggesting such a referral (first because there was no basis for the referral, but secondly because it was not in any material way related to her department). Then, there are statistics that prove a bias against conservative organizations. As to whether Obama is involved, Sarah Hall Ingram made 155 visits to the White House to meet with a "top Obama White House official". That is crazy. There is absolutely no reason for these kinds of meetings between WH personnel and an IRS person in charge of exempt organizations. Someone needs to explain these meetings. The details of these meetings should be provided as there is absolutely no possibility of anything in such meetings that should be subject to any executive privilege. But the Obama White House is, as usual, obfuscating and stonewalling. >> Besides, where was your outrage when Bush was actually doing that? >> G. W. Bush The NAACP was audited in 2004 after its chairman criticized then-President George W. Bush for failing to address the group, becoming the first president to do so since Herbert Hoover . [9] Have you looked at the "evidence" of THAT? I'll summarize it. The NAACP was audited. Then, tax cheat Charlie Rangel made an allegation the audit was ordered by the Bush Administration because NAACP head criticized Bush (like THAT kind of criticism was some kind of unusual event). That's it. No evidence. Nothing. Pretty much along the lines of Harry Reid's "Mitt Romney hasn't paid taxes in ten years." Just a fucking lie. As to the purported Greenpeace audit, following is the comment of the author:STEVE STECKLOW: Well, basically, a couple of years ago this fairly little known organization called Public Interest Watch started attacking a number of nonprofits and challenging their tax-exempt status. And their main target was Greenpeace, and they wrote a letter to the Internal Revenue Service, accusing Greenpeace of literally money laundering and crimes and quite serious allegations. And then I got a tip a few months ago that Greenpeace had, in fact, been audited, and I started looking into it, and I discovered this connection with Public Interest Watch and their calls for the audit. There is no documentation of the so-called "connection". Although, I would point out that if examinations had reason to suspect inaccurate reporting on the part of Greenpeace that would be an appropriate reason for an examination. Examinations as a political tool are one thing; examinations because they have reason to believe there was inaccurate reporting is something else. Having had occasion to recommend an examination for an entity I represented (at the request of a group of its owners) -- and one that had egregiously under reported trust fund taxes (the most aggressively pursued class of taxes) -- I can tell you that instigation of an examination from an outside party is almost impossible. In the case I'm referring to there was a vast sum of unpaid trust fund taxes at stake. That money was never collected.