To: SARMAN who wrote (800710 ) 8/24/2014 11:59:37 PM From: Bilow Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579893 Hi SARMAN; Re: "Hello Carl, A Holocaust at a slower rate is still a Holocaust, don't you agree? "; Of course I don't agree. To reach "holocaust" status you actually have to make a dent in the population. But the Arab population of Gaza keeps rising from year to year. Therefore no genocide. Population of Gaza goes up by about 3% per year: en.wikipedia.org With a population of 1.4 million, that's about 42,000 per year or 807 per week. Compare this with what the US, Britain and Russia did to Germany in 1940 through 1945, about 7,400,000 over 5 years out of a population of around 80,000,000. So 1.5 million per year was about 1.85% of the population. This wasn't quite a holocaust but it was close enough. Germany and Japan had population reductions. By the way, I'm beginning to suspect that the US will eventually get sucked into fighting a real war against ISIS or the caliphate, but it can only start quite some time from now; i.e. when ISIS is an actual country with diplomatic relations, etc. Now that would be a real war. The states that ISIS seems to get purchase in are the Arab ones and their population today is around 4x that of Germany in 1940. So if they put up the same resistance as Germany did, the war would end only after we had killed perhaps 30 million Arabs. And then the remainder, like the Germans and Japanese before them, would swear that they would never fight the US again. Unlike Israel, the US is militarily and diplomatically quite capable of this. It's not a matter of occupying or pacifying or disarming or "winning hearts and minds". Those are concepts of limited war. Instead real war is a matter of killing as many civilians as we can, as quickly as possible, until the survivors pray for the right to surrender unconditionally. Furthermore, we write the history books and, just as we have in the past, those books will show that we were perfectly justified in our actions. The US is a naval power and during wartime, our navy controls ocean trade. The first thing we do is to prevent our enemy from importing munitions. The second thing we do is to prevent them from importing food. Then we destroy their infrastructure used to produce food. We do this because we're the world's largest exporter of food so this is our most potent weapon. Agriculture in most of the ME is dependent on irrigation and dams that are very delicate things. But even when it's working, did you know that the world's largest wheat importer is Egypt? Did you know that Algeria imports 80% of its food supply? Did you know that the US, Britain and France starved 250,000 Germans to death in 1919 by refusing to allow her to import food even after she had quit fighting in 1918? What do you think a war between the US and a new Caliphate would look like? I wouldn't want to live in these places during such a war... -- Carl