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To: SARMAN who wrote (803651)	8/25/2014 3:33:50 PM
From: Bilow	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1579897

Hi SARMAN; Re: "Hmm, according to your logic, i.e. people killed base on percentages, 9/11 shouldn't have generated any reaction."; The statistics I gave you was for how many people you have to kill in order to pacify a population. The number killed in the WTC attacks was a tiny tiny percentage of the US. Of course it's not enough to "pacify" the US. To pacify the US the terrorists would have to kill about 30,000,000 of us and show that they were willing to do the same to the remainder. All they can do is piss us off, they cannot possibly defeat us. To unpacify a population you don't actually have to kill anyone. Propaganda alone can do it. It's the pacification that requires mass murder. Re: "You see, in a short while, those people are flooding Europe and North America, thus jeopardizing the Anglo Saxon way of life. Karma has it way to bit in the ass. "; Go read history. Read what happens to transients during war. This is what "concentration camps" or "internment camps" were invented to do, to concentrate the transients. And during an actual war moving across borders becomes very very difficult. The Nazis did not invent concentration camps. The British used internment camps when they beat the Boers in 1899-1902. The US used them against the Phillipines during their attempt at throwing off US rule and again when we went to war against the Japanese. Uh, the British and the US are good examples of "Anglo Saxons", so you need to be aware that brutality is not in any way incompatible with the "Anglo Saxon way of life". And as far as "karma", that doesn't apply to Christians. We only come around once, LOL. Re: "What war?"; The primary political difficulty in getting a country like the US into a war is that you have to dehumanize the enemy. The stuff that ISIS is putting out on youtube is doing that better at least as well as any war propaganda expert has ever done before. Goebbels would love to have claimed that the Poles were cutting off the heads of journalists, LOL, but no one would have believed it. ISIS is setting themselves up for their own mass murder. But along with them will go a lot of the people around them. These little things like Afghanistan and Iraq are about "winning hearts and minds"; they are not true war. The last true US war ended in August 1945. War is about killing as many of the enemy as you can, men, women and children, because they are subhuman. And doing that requires propaganda. Re: "The so called Caliphate is F-UK-US creation."; I don't disagree with you on this. I was against the US support against Assad and before that I was very much against the war to get rid of Saddam. It was obvious to me at the time that the local populations were not our friends and exposing them to democracy would have no better effect for the US than the democratic elections that put Hitler into power. And yes, my mind-numbed compatriots will tell you that Hitler wasn't really elected. But they are ignoring the point. Hitler was incredibly popular in both Germany and Austria; he picked up above 90% in the plebiscite in Austria. And I expect that ISIS will be similarly popular in a lot of places. Leaders who promise morality and victory tend to popular all over the world. But how the Caliphate was created has little to do with whether or not there is a war. The US supported Islamic forces against the Russians in Afghanistan. That didn't stop the US from tipping their government over. -- Carl