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To: Bearcatbob who wrote (185405)	8/26/2014 10:28:22 AM
From: Biomaven	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206084

>>Let the markets rule. I assume you agree, as do virtually all economists, that some sort of method is needed for taking negative externalities into account? If so, it all becomes a lot more complicated than you make out. Peter

To: Bearcatbob who wrote (185405) 8/26/2014 1:43:23 PM

From: Eric Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 206084

Eric, Let the markets rule. You repeatedly say the economics of your dream schemes are superior to fossil fuels. If you actually believe that crap you would not get so exercised as the rule of markets will rule.

Bob,

Where electricity is expensive such as Hawaii and other places in the world PV generated electricity is already much, much cheaper.

No subsidies required in more and more places.

Just finished wiring up a system for a friend of mine in So California. He and I did all of the work. Total installed cost of about $1.10 a watt. Grid tied. He will add batteries later to have some redundancy.

His system is rated at a nameplate capacity of 12 Kwhr. He's getting a pure electric car and wanted excess generation to take care of it.

On days in the summertime he is easily generating over 50 Kwhrs per day.

Should easily zero out his utility bill over the course of a year.

Forgot to mention that the PV's on my off grid house built in 1991 are all still going strong. Not a single failure yet in that 44 panel array.. 23 years old this summer.

Electricity generated without a single moving part...

Eric

P.S.

Here is an email from one of my suppliers a few days ago:

No. of Pallets	Container	Diamond Jewelry Worth
5 and more	Less than Container	$1250
14 and more	20' Container	$2500
20 and more	40' Container	$5000

250 Watt Sonali Solar Panels

GRADE "A"25 YEAR MANUFACTURER WARRANTYModelDownload
DatasheetPrice
Per
PanelPricePer
PalletPrice
Per
Container

SS-250 82¢/W 78¢/W 74¢/W

12V Sonali Solar Panels

Perfect for off grid applications, RV's, boats, and educational purposes.ModelWattsCell
TypeDownload
SpecsPrice
Per PanelPrice
Per Watt

SONALI-80W	80	Poly	$75.20	$0.94/W
SONALI-100W	100	Poly	$94	$0.94/W
SONALI-150W	150	Poly	$141	$0.94/W

34¢/W Thin Film Modules
FOR THOSE WILLING TO PREPAY
THE SALE PRICE WILL BE
34¢/W

ETA August 25th, 1 pallet min.

ModelWattsDownload
DatasheetPallet
Price
(28 pcs)20' Container Price
(504 pcs)40' Container Price
(1008 pcs)

SUN-90 Thin Film

34¢/W)

(34¢/W)

Solarfennel 285 Watt Solar Panel

ModelWattsDownload
DatasheetSingle Panel
PricePallet
Price

PS7A 285

285

82¢/W)

(78¢/W)

32¢/W Sharp Thin Film Modules

32¢/W

25 YEAR WARRANTY - CE - GRADE A
1 CONTAINER MINIMUM (420 PCS)

ModelContainer Price

SHARP NS-F121G6

(32¢/W)

12V Solar Panels

Perfect for off grid applications, RV's, boats, and educational purposes.ModelWattsCell
TypeDownload
SpecsPrice
Per PanelPrice
Per WattOrder
Online

SUN-15W	15	Poly	$22	$1.48/W
SUN-50W	50	Poly	$54	$1.08/W
SUN-95W	95	Mono	$93	$0.98/W
SONALI-80W	80	Poly	$75.20	$0.94/W
SONALI-100W	100	Poly	$94	$0.94/W
SONALI-150W	150	Poly	$141	$0.94/W
ZBR-100W	100	Poly	$98	$0.98/W	Sold out!
SUN-145W	145	Poly	$136	$0.94/W

CSUN Solar Panels

UL & GRADE "A"20' CONTAINER MINIMUM

ModelWattsDownload
DatasheetContainer
Price per watt

CSUN255-60M

255

55¢/W

SUNTECH Solar Panels

In Stock - Monocrystalline

395 Watts

LIGHTWEIGHT

58¢/W
IN STOCK IN U.S.ModelWattsDownload
DatasheetPallet
Price per watt

SUNTECH 395

395

58¢/W

FLEXIBLE

Thin Film Systems
4590W OFF GRID SYSTEM

Product
DescriptionQtyCostTotal
Cost

Tianwei 90W	51	$30	$1560
50' MC4 Cables	17	$35	$595
MNEPV8	17	$10	$170
MNPV12	2	$140	$280
LA302DC	2	$40	$80
LA302R	1	$40	$40
DU221RB	1	$150	$150
MNDC250	1	$180	$180
HU361RB	1	$75	$75
XW-MPPT80	1	$1295	$1295
USP-225 Batteries	24	$90	$2160
BC-1 Battery Cables	23	$7	$161
BC-5 Inverter Cables	2	$35	$70
XW4548	1	$2698	$2698

Price Per WattSystem Total Cost

$2.07/W

$9,514

5040W GRID-TIE SYSTEM

Product
DescriptionQtyCostTotal
Cost

Tianwei 90W	56	$30	$1713
50' MC4 Cables	14	$35	$490
MNFUSE15 and Holder	14	$13	$182
MNPV12	2	$140	$280
LA602DC	2	$40	$80
LA302R	1	$40	$40
DU221RB	1	$150	$150
HU361RB	1	$75	$75
SB5000US	1	$1998	$1998

Price Per WattSystem Total Cost

$0.99/W

$5,008

FM-80 SPECIAL

FREE SHIPPING TO THE LOWER 48 STATES
(IN STOCK)
MAXIMUM POWER POINT TRACKING (MPPT) BUILT-IN,
BACKLIT 80 CHARACTER DISPLAY

ModelSizeWeightDownload
DatasheetSpecial
PriceOrder Online

FM-80

16.25" x 5.75" x 4.5"

12.20

$530

Kisae Products

Download Datasheet	IC121040 & IC122055 PERFECT INVERTER CHARGERS FOR BOATS, RV'S, HOMES AND CABINS. TRUE SINEWAVE- PERFECT FOR REFRIGERATORS, MICROWAVE OVENS, COMPUTERS, TELEVISIONS, POWER TOOLS AND MORE. High EfficiencyDetachable Display for remote controlHigh Surge CapacityETL listed $312 (IC121040 1000W +40A Charger) $432 (IC122055 2000W +55A Charger)
Download Datasheet	SW1210 & SW1220 PLUG AND PLAY SIMPLICITY TRUE SINEWAVE- PERFECT FOR REFRIGERATORS, MICROWAVE OVENS, COMPUTERS, TELEVISIONS, POWER TOOLS AND MORE. Compact DesignHigh EfficiencyHigh Surge CapacityUL Listed $156 (SW1210 1000W) $249 (SW1220 2000W)
Download Datasheet	MP100 LITHIUM BATTERY POWER PACK TO RUN LAPTOPS AND MOBILE DEVICES Lightweight and portable designFeatures AC and USB outputs100w 2500mA Lithium Powerpack $148
Download Datasheet	PP800 LEAD ACID BATTERY POWER PACK TO RUN POWER TOOLS, TELEVISIONS, LIGHTS, COMPUTERS, AND MORE. Lightweight and portable designFeatures AC and USB outputs800W Inverter26Ah Battery $198

Just Arrived In Costa Rica

NEW DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE IN SAN JOSE
180W MONOCRYSTALLINE SOLAR PANELS 24V
CALL 305-710-9645 FOR INFORMATION

ModelQty
AvailableCell
TypeWattsPrice
Per Pallet

SUN-180	35	Poly	180	48¢/W
SUN-200	80	Poly	200
SUN-180	490	Mono	180
SUN-200	7	Mono	200

Outback Batteries

Will Last 2 to 3 Times Longer Than Golf Cart Batteries
2 Years Replacement Warranty

ModelTypeVoltageDownloadDatasheetPrice

EnergyCell 106RE

AGMsealed

12 VDC

$218

250 & 300 Watt Solar Panels

Astronergy Solar Panels FOB CALIFORNIA

ModelWattsDownload DatasheetPrice Per Container

CHSM 6610P	250		88¢/W
CHSM 6612P	300		88¢/W

74¢/W Zebra Solar Panels

FOB California
19 Panels Per Pallet
UL & CEC listed
Great for commercial and utility scale projects

ModelWattsDownload
DatasheetPrice
Per Pallet

Z BR-280 280 74¢/W

Suntech Solar Panels

POLYCRYSTALLINE SOLAR MODULE 25 YEAR SUNTECH WARRANTY OUTPUT TOLERANCE 0±3%

ModelDownload
DatasheetPrice
Per PanelPrice
Per PalletPrice Per
Container

STP290-24/Vd 98¢/W 88¢/W
(21 pcs) 82¢/W
(147 pcs)

Canadian Solar Panels

MAXPOWER CS6X IS A ROBUST SOLAR MODULE WITH 72 SOLAR CELLS.

ModelDownloadDatasheetPrice
Per PalletPrice
Per 20' Container

CS6X-280-P	92¢/W	88¢/W
CS6X-285-P
CS6X-290-P

Sun Electronics low prices throughout the last 5 Years

YearModulePriceComments

2009	GE 200W	$1.10/W
2010	Kaneka 60W	$0.98/W	First panel ever offered for under $1/Watt
2011	Evergreen	$0.78/W	First polycrystalline module offered under $0.90/Watt.
2011	Sovello	$0.68/W	We set our own record for world's lowest PV prices.
2012	JA Solar	$0.62/W
2013	Unisolar PVL	$0.54/W	First ever flexible panels below $0.78/Watt.
2013	Sharp	$0.50/W	Lowest price ever for a tier 1 manufacturer.
2014	Chaori	$0.52/W	A new world's lowest price on grade A polycrystalline modules.
2014	Sun A-Si 90	$0.34/W	The world's lowest cost A grade UL listed module.