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To: Katelew who wrote (259397)	8/29/2014 6:54:47 PM
From: Metacomet	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 540885

The best answer I can come up with is for every black child born to a young single mother to be removed and raised in old-style orphanages run by well-trained and dedicated professionals. And in doing, reveal that you too believe that blacks really are not much removed from the level of livestock, in much the same fashion as how their ancestors entered the country.. It's probably in your water down there....

To: Katelew who wrote (259397)	8/29/2014 10:14:59 PM
From: Alex MG	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540885

>>Maybe old-timers like you and Alex are in fact enablers. old-timer? what does that mean or even have to do with the conversation? you just posted you went to school in the same generation as Jerry Jones, so evidently you are old enough to be my grandmother... hello?? >>The Michael Brown funeral was so discouraging to me----a parade of "enablers" who managed to turn a young thug into a cultural hero. A culture hero??... who the F said that? you are making up your own talking points I didn't tune in to the funeral broadcast... I don't watch any daytime TV... but what's amazing is how some people just constantly label this guy a "thug" and that is seemingly supposed to excuse the fact the he was unarmed and shot 6-11 times and his body left to bake in the sun for 4-5 hours and no real official police report has yet been given >>The White House even sent 3 representatives. To do what? "Honor" someone who could never be called a role model? the White House sent 3 representatives because there is clear reasons to think the police officer and his backers are hiding what really happened and maybe there was a greater crime committed other than a shoplifting and pushing a store clerk around... and because it became a national flashpoint... If the WH ignored it they'd get blamed for that also... obviously this is a stupid right wing talking point promoted by the race baiters on Fox News,etc... "Obama didn't send anyone to Margaret Thatchers funeral, but he sends people to Ferguson MO!!!"... Outrage alert!... was Margaret Thatcher gunned down in the street??... jeeze, what a stupid comparison by Fox News, but that's their bread and butter, anything to rile up their base of stupid white racist dumbfucks As for your statement about young black mothers being total assholes to their kids in public, this I can totally agree with you on... I've seen it so many times... It's sad to see a parent mentally abuse a child who is too young to really know what's going on, it has to leave scars... but to not address why this cycle of dysfunction exists and to simply state all black kids should be removed from single mothers is a bit bizarre and not in the realm of rationality... should we start a national program to round up all young black females who become pregnant and ship them off to "training camps"?... might it be more smart to give them free birth control and educate them so they don't become pregnant?... the idiotic hypocrisy of the religious right who want all people to have as many babies as they can yet they throw them in the garbage can once they are born if they are not "of their kind"

To: Katelew who wrote (259397)	8/30/2014 8:41:25 AM
From: Pogeu Mahone	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540885

You get it. Epicure gets it. "Maybe you're a little too stuck in the past, Koan....you and Alex both. If you read the Pew poll, you'll find a generational difference of opinion on what's most to blame for the problem behaviors of young blacks. Only 35% of young blacks themselves hold to your argument. They hold black culture in general to blame. They believe blacks have to do more to help themselves and have to quit making excuses. Maybe old-timers like you and Alex are in fact enablers. The Michael Brown funeral was so discouraging to me----a parade of "enablers" who managed to turn a young thug into a cultural hero. The White House even sent 3 representatives. To do what? "Honor" someone who could never be called a role model? No matter how you measure it, the statistics of blacks as a group are terrible when measured against their numbers, i.e. 15% of all Americans. I put a huge amount of blame on AA women. For 25 years, I've sat on mall benches while my family shopped and watched AA women jerk their kids around, call them fools, threaten them, yell, spank, and even slap small toddlers across the face. In short, terrorize their small children rather than drop down to their eye level and try to reason with them. I think of their young brains just constantly being flooded with stress hormones and then read studies claiming the average black infant is developmentally falling behind by the age of six months and thinking 'no surprise there'. You're wrong to think the public schools can turn most of these kids around. Even 4 year old pre-school is too late for most. They're too damaged, imo, and need intense one-one-one involvement with a caring adult. The best answer I can come up with is for every black child born to a young single mother to be removed and raised in old-style orphanages run by well-trained and dedicated professionals."

To: Katelew who wrote (259397)

8/30/2014 1:08:22 PM

From: koan

Respond to of 540885

<<Maybe you're a little too stuck in the past, Koan....you and Alex both. If you read the Pew poll, you'll find a generational difference of opinion on what's most to blame for the problem behaviors of young blacks. Only 35% of young blacks themselves hold to your argument. They hold black culture in general to blame. They believe blacks have to do more to help themselves and have to quit making excuses.>>

koan: What you are presenting is anecdotal evidence. A PEW poll shows nothing except opinion.

What is germane is the science, not someone's opinion.

<<Maybe old-timers like you and Alex are in fact enablers. The Michael Brown funeral was so discouraging to me----a parade of "enablers" who managed to turn a young thug into a cultural hero. The White House even sent 3 representatives. To do what? "Honor" someone who could never be called a role model?>>

koan: I may be old, but I am also a social scientist of sorts. I have the education and the experience and I am speaking as a social scientist.

<<No matter how you measure it, the statistics of blacks as a group are terrible when measured against their numbers, i.e. 15% of all Americans. I put a huge amount of blame on AA women. For 25 years, I've sat on mall benches while my family shopped and watched AA women jerk their kids around, call them fools, threaten them, yell, spank, and even slap small toddlers across the face. In short, terrorize their small children rather than drop down to their eye level and try to reason with them. I think of their young brains just constantly being flooded with stress hormones and then read studies claiming the average black infant is developmentally falling behind by the age of six months and thinking 'no surprise there'.>>

African American's spent 200 years in salvery, then another 100 in chain gangs and inferior schools and endured horrible racism all during that time.

What you are seeing is a lack of education. Because they never had a chance.

Today, African American women are going to college 2 to 1 over African American men.

To: Katelew who wrote (259397)

8/30/2014 1:22:33 PM

From: koan

Respond to of 540885

To: Katelew who wrote (259397)	8/30/2014 1:30:26 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 540885

katelew:<<You're wrong to think the public schools can turn most of these kids around. Even 4 year old pre-school is too late for most. They're too damaged, imo, and need intense one-one-one involvement with a caring adult. I was also a teacher and know what education can do. What are your credentials? I worry more about the uneducated and indoctrinated Mormon kids who come up to my doorstep on a regular bases with blank looks in their eyes, knowing little and believing pure nonsense. It is easier to teach an uneducated kid than one who has been indoctrinated with nonsense their entire lives. Katelew:The best answer I can come up with is for every black child born to a young single mother to be removed and raised in old-style orphanages run by well-trained and dedicated professionals. koan: That sentence above is one of the ugliest and dumbest things I have ever seen posted on SI.